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Re: This Started Out Good I was surprised at all the smoke it put out. I'm thinking it's because I forgot to put the cap back on the gas can a few days back, and it sat there for about 24hrs open. I'd bet enough gas evaporated to make the oil/gas ratio oil rich. Anyways..........this crap is gonna get drained from the tank, the can emptied, and I'm headin' off to the gas station to buy some REAL gas for the 2 cycle stuff. No more ethanol in these!!
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Re: This Started Out Good On Monday, I called the small engine guy to order a carb kit. He very strongly recommended against it because the carb is a Walbro clone from China,, and it's just enough different from a genuine Walbro, that the kit may/may not fit. He looked up the price of a new identical Chinese knockoff..................$17. So we ordered the new one, and it arrived this afternoon. When I mount the chain bar, I'll adjust the idle so it doesn't move the chain. My feeling, at this point, is that the idle is too fast. BUT DAMMY GRAMMY!!!!!! SHE'S RUNNIN' AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I didn't have any leftover parts I have absolutely no idea how I typed Cragsman in the title Alzheimers maybe......
Re: This Started Out Good I got it all put together Friday evening, and pulled the cord.......................it ran for a few seconds. Finally got it running for a while with the choke closed, and ONLY with the choke closed. So, it's either something plugged in the carb/faulty fuel pump in carb/faulty metering system in carb/weak pulse coming from motor to run the pump. I pulled the line from the pump off, and blew in it. I could hear just a tiny bit of air coming out of the fitting on the motor. I don't know just how much pressure the pulse should be, but a leak isn't good I'm thinking. The improper hose doesn't fit tight enough maybe. I can put a small diameter hose on it if need be. I opened up the carb to look at the fuel pump diaphragm, and metering diaphragm. Both looked ok. But I ruined a gasket when opening up. Now I gotta run and get a kit on Monday. I need to check the check valve in the metering chamber too. It looks like it's full of some sorta yellow crud. So far, I've got $9 in the bulb kit, and $3 in the new filter. I imagine the carb kit will run about $10-12 for a decent one.
Re: This Started Out Good I finally decided on the Greenworks 60V 16" chainsaw today, went to Lowes since they had the best price online... They are selling so fast I wont see mine for another week. $229 with battery and charger. Amazon had the saw alone for $191+12 bux shipping, but the extra batteries are $189 by themselves and I get another charger too. NO MORE YANKING CORDS.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by CAVEMANN I've gotten pretty distraught with the small engines on chainsaws & weedeaters, it seems they just don't hold up like they used to, I bought a new Poulan chainsaw two years ago , I've never used it because the dang thing is so hard to pull, even with the blade brake off, I don't know if you can buy one without it nowadays, BUT I HATE IT! I also have a near new Stihl weedeater that didnt wanna start this year, I just don't have the stamina or give-a-schit to fight em. The 'Greenies' have effectively destroyed all of the small engines on the market!!! turning them into one season(if you're lucky) disposable tools used to be you could leave fuel in something for 10 plus years and still start it when you finally got around to it... no more... you will be lucky if something sits a couple weeks and still starts!!! I try to run ethanol free fuel in anything I have but even that ins't a guarantee as they have 'reformulated' ALL fuels to make them more 'clean'... what a joke!!!
Re: This Started Out Good I've gotten pretty distraught with the small engines on chainsaws & weedeaters, it seems they just don't hold up like they used to, I bought a new Poulan chainsaw two years ago , I've never used it because the dang thing is so hard to pull, even with the blade brake off, I don't know if you can buy one without it nowadays, BUT I HATE IT! I also have a near new Stihl weedeater that didnt wanna start this year, I just don't have the stamina or give-a-schit to fight em.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by 12V71 Make a leak down tester for the SXS, old sparkplug and a 1/8" pipe coupler. You know what to do with that. Wow... plastic intake manifold? I've probably seen it and it didn't register. Warpage just waiting to happen. I think I have a leakdown tester somewhere around here.... just gotta find it My first thoughts were it's probably cracked-- being plastic-- but no light seen with a flashlight test so when I pulled it off there was more corrosion on the one side oring seal... so hopefully this takes care of it(250 dollar part!!!)... because I think this motor is still good.. no clunking when I rock the crankshaft and it runs really good except for the 'hot' cylinder
Re: This Started Out Good Make a leak down tester for the SXS, old sparkplug and a 1/8" pipe coupler. You know what to do with that. Wow... plastic intake manifold? I've probably seen it and it didn't register. Warpage just waiting to happen.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by 12V71 I been checking out the "Greenworks" 60V 16" chainsaw for the little I do at home, I already have the string trimmer and its pretty awesome. Besides, little things with spark plugs hate me. Lately I have been having similar interactions with small motors the bosses side-by-side took a crap the other day and all I got told was there was gas coming out the exhaust! So I rip into it.... went through the carbs... didn't see anything??? could barely get it to run while floored, checked it with the FLIR... back cylinder is running 40 degrees hotter and keeps fouling the plug gave it a compression test: Front: 28 psi Attachment 1716825 Back: 38 psi Attachment 1716826 Seems kinda low....??? Then I checked the valve gap on the rockers... but I didn't have any feeler gauges with me... so... it was a guesstimate check... seemed alright ??? gotta decide what to do next... might pour some oil in and redo the compression test... maybe it's burned ex valves??? from the intakes the intake valves look great! I dunno... I did get a bit of 'machine work' done to the bobcat 250 welder with the kohler in it took a few thou off the mating face of the intake manifold to the cylinders... I 'think' it was leaking on one of these causing the temp difference in the cylinders on this one and the wet finger and huffing/puffing Duane talks about Attachment 1716827 Hope to get this back together in the next few days and test it out for welding...
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by ronsii They do work good for little stuff and 'quiet work'... when you don't want nosey people to know what you're doing nowhere near as powerful as my stihl's.. but hey each has it's purpose The one thing I don't like is the teeny tiny chain it has... but I understand why they designed it that way.... They ain't cheap either but what is these days... I been checking out the "Greenworks" 60V 16" chainsaw for the little I do at home, I already have the string trimmer and its pretty awesome. Besides, little things with spark plugs hate me.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by William McCormick Sam get a Milwaukee Fuel chain saw. I was going to get one but I had to buy so many other tools that I put it off. I have the Milwaukee weed whacker I like that with the 12 amp hour battery that things does a good job. Sincerely, William McCormick They do work good for little stuff and 'quiet work'... when you don't want nosey people to know what you're doing nowhere near as powerful as my stihl's.. but hey each has it's purpose The one thing I don't like is the teeny tiny chain it has... but I understand why they designed it that way.... They ain't cheap either but what is these days...
Re: This Started Out Good Sam get a Milwaukee Fuel chain saw. I was going to get one but I had to buy so many other tools that I put it off. I have the Milwaukee weed whacker I like that with the 12 amp hour battery that things does a good job. Sincerely, William McCormick
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by shortfuse 1. They have the special tools, 2. Probably one experienced assembly dood per part, and 3. They do thousands of them, FAST. And remember... that 5 year old chinese kid has a lot more dexterity in his hands than a 90 year old...
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by farmersammm dunno how they do it on a fast assembly line 1. They have the special tools, 2. Probably one experienced assembly dood per part, and 3. They do thousands of them, FAST.
Re: This Started Out Good With all this messing around, I think I inadvertently found the reason the thing quit running. Sure the primer bulb was bad from sitting around for a long time, but this had to be the reason IT DID SIT AROUND FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT NO LONGER WOULD RUN Attachment 1716683 This thing has a tube/hose that takes the impulses from the crankcase to the carb in order to run the diaphragm pump!! The diaphragm is what pumps the fuel out of the tank, and is located on all these little carbs. The hose was competely cracked, and broken in half. I wasn't sure what the hose was, and called the small motor dood, and he immediately knew what it was. He said they're not too common, but he's seen them. Anyways..........he couldn't find one in his parts book for the MTD/Craftsman. He said they're special high temperature material. And.......he said they absolutely won't run without this hose. Most designs take the impulses from the crankcase through the base of the carb, but this thing has that long rubber thingy that isolates the carb from the motor, so it has to have the hose. So.............if it can't be found........I did what I could, and substituted some vacuum line in its place (that's the stuff in the pic). I'm not sure if it'll last, but tried to help it last by folding up some cut up beer can aluminum between the hose, and the cooling fins on the motor. Keep your fingers crossed I don't see what else I can do, being as the hose is not available (shrug). That rubber vac line gets pretty hot in normal automotive applications, so I might get lucky, and have it last for a while. Took forever to take this part of the thing apart, dunno how they do it on a fast assembly line The rubber thingy that connects the carb to the intake, the brown thing, has to pass through 3 different things, and ya gotta fight it to get it to go through.
Re: This Started Out Good I am just going by my experience with them. I have owned 5 chain saws, three of which were Poulans back to back and all three were bad. My other two chain saws both not the Poulan brand were both great.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by whtbaron You hear lots of comments like that, but oddly enough I've had pretty good luck with them up until the last 5 or 6 yrs. I've got 3 that had around 12 to 15 yrs on them before they lost compression. The one with the broken crank was from trimming caragana branches and the rubber stalks wrapped into the chain and snapped it... not really the saw's fault. Last couple didn't stand up that well... got maybe 3 yrs on them before they started losing compression so even their quality has slipped. I've still got an 18" I use for rough applications and so far it's been working well... I've had a Cheapo 14' Poulan for 6 years that I use for cutting up railroad ties and gluelam beams for cribbing at the shop. little thing has been used hard with little care and still begs for more. Chopped up a bunch of trees around the house too. Oh, it works on PVC/C900 pipe too.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by gnewby My first chain saw was a McCullagh & it was a good chain saw cut lots of cedar trees and elm trees with it. After I started having issues with it and we had a bad ice storm my wife bought me a Poulan, the first one only ran for about 5 minutes then the engine locked up on it. I returned it and the second one could not get it to idle, took it back the third one I fought fair and square for a long time but gave up on it and went and bought a Stihl and gave away the third Poulan. You hear lots of comments like that, but oddly enough I've had pretty good luck with them up until the last 5 or 6 yrs. I've got 3 that had around 12 to 15 yrs on them before they lost compression. The one with the broken crank was from trimming caragana branches and the rubber stalks wrapped into the chain and snapped it... not really the saw's fault. Last couple didn't stand up that well... got maybe 3 yrs on them before they started losing compression so even their quality has slipped. I've still got an 18" I use for rough applications and so far it's been working well...
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by farmersammm This thing is built like modern day cars........everything is impossible to get to. The weedeater was a trip in the park compared to this stinkin' thing. The entire handle assembly had to come off to access the fuel lines, and it's bolted to the motor on the back, side, and front, of the stinkin' motor. Man.......this is a killer!!! I can get a new one at Lowes for $180, but I'm so damn far down in the market, I gotta fix this one I hear you on the impossible to get to, I never want to have to change valve cover gaskets on my truck, I can barley see the valve covers buried under all the hoses, wire, brackets and crap that probably does nothing but mandated for pollution to be there...
Re: This Started Out Good My first chain saw was a McCullagh & it was a good chain saw cut lots of cedar trees and elm trees with it. After I started having issues with it and we had a bad ice storm my wife bought me a Poulan, the first one only ran for about 5 minutes then the engine locked up on it. I returned it and the second one could not get it to idle, took it back the third one I fought fair and square for a long time but gave up on it and went and bought a Stihl and gave away the third Poulan.
Re: This Started Out Good Poulans are much like that as well... I don't think they were ever intended to be fixed, just disposed of. I had one with a motor with no compression, and one with a good motor but the end of the crank that holds the clutch was broken. Seemed like a simple idea... take the good parts from both and build one that runs. That's when I found out some are made in Mexico, some in China, some in Taiwan and the parts don't interchange. Still got a big box of parts here if u want to come and get them... I switched to Stihl.
Re: This Started Out Good Originally Posted by Hobbytime I have followed several of your repair stuff threads..and for bejesus sake, you could make changing a normal light bulb into a 2 week renovation...laugh it was meant to be funny..but true...you ripped a chainsaw apart into little bitty pieces to change out a primer bulb...thats what? usually a 1/2 hour job..on a bad day... This thing is built like modern day cars........everything is impossible to get to. The weedeater was a trip in the park compared to this stinkin' thing. The entire handle assembly had to come off to access the fuel lines, and it's bolted to the motor on the back, side, and front, of the stinkin' motor. Man.......this is a killer!!! I can get a new one at Lowes for $180, but I'm so damn far down in the market, I gotta fix this one
Re: This Started Out Good I have followed several of your repair stuff threads..and for bejesus sake, you could make changing a normal light bulb into a 2 week renovation...laugh it was meant to be funny..but true...you ripped a chainsaw apart into little bitty pieces to change out a primer bulb...thats what? usually a 1/2 hour job..on a bad day...
Re: This Started Out Good I was able to get the grommet out without any damage. Attachment 1716622 I thought about it, and realized that if you need for anything made of rubber to be slick, you should treat it like a tire. Attachment 1716623 Give it a few squirts with tire soap, let it flow into the joint...........then simply push it down into the fuel tank The repair kit doesn't come with the identical WEIGHTED gas filter. Attachment 1716624 I was able to go to my small motor guy, and get the original Walbro filter, so I lucked out. But, if I hadn't found one, it would be a simple matter of drilling a hole in a piece of steel to fit over the fuel line like the donut on the Walbro filter.
Re: This Started Out Good It's almost gotten to the stage where if Amazon doesn't have it, it ain't made....next is ebay.
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