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Re: Tractor catagory 1 quick hitch

Another vote for Pat's. My 3 point attachments are old, and home made, so the the distance between the pins are all different. With Pat's, it doesn't matter, but with the other quick hitches, they have to be an exact distance apart.

Also, a big help hooking up is to have a hydraulic top link. If you go with Pat's, you need to make sure your top cylinder is long enough, the Pat's adds around 4 inches to your lifting arm.

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Attachment 1729921 Works great..

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Attachment 1729920 I needed to clear the shop door. by 9".

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Attachment 1729919 This has worked Great..

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Originally Posted by Fast Leroy

I got one of those cheap Chinese hitches from Harbor Freight. Best tractor add on I ever bought. I never have to leave the seat to hook up or drop off, except to hook up the PTO. I think it was $90 at HF.

Ditto. My tractors are 18 and 24 hp, well within HF's claimed 40 hp range. With a decade of use, I've never had a problem. I don't use the cat 1/2 adapters, just run the cat1 pins in the QH's hooks.

Tip - buy the Speeco-style replacement top hook to make this (and most clones) usable. The factory hook is set too close to the frame so it interferes with everything. The Speeco has the holes set back farther so the hook is out where it doesn't interfere.

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One thing I like about the QH is I can back into an implement to push it around, for alignment and to break it free of the dirt it's embedded in. Then just lift and go. No need to get off the tractor unless it's a pto-driven implement - mower, tiller, etc.

It's well worth it to get out the welder and improve any implement that doesn't fit standard QH dimensions.

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Originally Posted by SweetMK

I have the extendable lower arms on my 60+HP IH tractor,, I have about 5 inches of travel that the arms can extend,,



I do not know the correct term, either, but, they sure work perfectly,,

I'd like to talk to you. That could be a picture of my 385. Those late production IH seemed to use the same rear with engine sizes ranging wide.
My three point hitch is all the way up or all the way down. I doubt that is how it was designed. Scraper blade works better behind the B275 (1961 British IH)

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Originally Posted by SweetMK

I have the extendable lower arms on my 60+HP IH tractor,, I have about 5 inches of travel that the arms can extend,,



I do not know the correct term, either, but, they sure work perfectly,,

Have those on my old Allis's. I love them.

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Originally Posted by rexcormack

All these pictures of tractors with new tires!
I can't take any more!!

When I got mine for the IH,, they came with new wheels, and hubs,, ALL NEW!!,,

My JD, MIGHT need new front tires,, soon?



The JD actually works well, I use that tractor for mowing, the short bars are kind to the lawn when it turns,,

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All these pictures of tractors with new tires!
I can't take any more!!

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I like that! As usual I’m late to the party! [emoji23]


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Na, not late,, just early for the next design to come along,,

After having the Pat's, I can not imagine being able to hook up anything to that European "ball hitch" without two people,,
How do you guide those hooks onto a ball,, TWICE! (once for each side)
At least the Pat's has the bar sticking up to "catch" the implement.
and,, the Pat's comes with an adjustable link, so that you can space the arms apart, as needed,,

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Originally Posted by Munkul

All our newer tractors have these types of hook ends



Balls go on the implement, and you just drive up to the implement, wiggle a bit and lift... then put the top link on seperately.

I like that! As usual I’m late to the party! [emoji23]


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All our newer tractors have these types of hook ends



Balls go on the implement, and you just drive up to the implement, wiggle a bit and lift... then put the top link on seperately.

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I got one of those cheap Chinese hitches from Harbor Freight. Best tractor add on I ever bought. I never have to leave the seat to hook up or drop off, except to hook up the PTO. I think it was $90 at HF.

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I had to weld mine up (closed) on one of the Fords. They would release occasionally


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When I first got the tractor, I thought for sure they were going to release on occasion,,

Well,, I have had the tractor since the mid 1990's, and I have never had an arm self release!!

I have lost several top link pins,, for whatever reason,,,

I even purchase the black phosphate coated lynch pins that are ~4X stronger than the plated regular lynch pins.
The top link even manages to shed those,, somehow.

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Originally Posted by SweetMK

I have the extendable lower arms on my 60+HP IH tractor,, I have about 5 inches of travel that the arms can extend,,



I do not know the correct term, either, but, they sure work perfectly,,

I had to weld mine up (closed) on one of the Fords. They would release occasionally


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Originally Posted by John Bartley

This is NOT my tractor ... just a screen grab of part of another image .... same loose arms. (I have no idea what the correct term is)

I have the extendable lower arms on my 60+HP IH tractor,, I have about 5 inches of travel that the arms can extend,,



I do not know the correct term, either, but, they sure work perfectly,,

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Here's a JD Cat 2 quick hitch at my neighbors. It may even be one of mine that he bought from me. He uses all Cat 2 and 3.



I purchased three used JD Q-A clones from a Washington State equipment dealer for $100 each. Unsure of the make. They might have even been "shop built".

They worked flawlessly for me for 30 years at which point I SOLD them for a profit. [emoji41]


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I have the slide out arm ends of both my tractors. Saves some work, yes. But the front to back is easier to line up by moving the tractor forward or back and turning the steering wheel.

The biggest difficulty is heavier implements on uneven ground, where raising and lowering doesn't seem to align anything (one arm too high or low). That is the case with my 3 point disc mower. I have a stash of pry bars and high lift jacks to help persuade it into position.

I believe that very large tractors have all moved to quick attach because there is no easy way to persuade the alignment of a 20,000 pound implement. So why can't they make that the standard on all new tractors???

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I also remember wrestling with the 3-pt hookup on my Dad's tractors. My Kioti came with something that was new to me (I'm not a farmer), a set of loose arm ends. I always leave my equipment sitting in the position that they were on the tractor, whether by using jacks or blocks or .... so with the loose ends all I have to do is back in within an inch or two and I'm good to go in a minute or so. My difficulty seems more to be getting the PTO shafts to slide on. I've taken to overgreasing the splines and locking pins ... it's just easier.

This is NOT my tractor ... just a screen grab of part of another image .... same loose arms. (I have no idea what the correct term is)

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Always a wrestling match to hook up. I find I mostly leave an implement on a tractor year round. 1961 B275 has had the wood splitter attached for years now. 1985 IH 385 has loader. The scraper comes off only to bush hog.

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Originally Posted by bead-boy

It's just shocking that tractors today are still being manufactured with hitch technology invented during the 1930's.

I assume they are forced to because of all the implements out there would have to be modified, or parked in the weeds and forgotten.

What's wrong with it? if it's not heavy duty enough, you go to the next category up. The system works well.

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Well my Ford is a 1971? So its reliable, not new.

So a couple weeks ago I fixed the issue of flat tires on the finish mower, woods makes great solid tires compared to the junk sold on Amazon. For basically the same price. So that's why my new PITA is aligning the hitch itself.

Would a roto-tiller be ok with putting it on the Pat's system if I get the grade 8 bolts? I currently have a finish mower, brush hog, roto-tiller, spreader, rake, and cut hate that I put on the cat 1 Ford. Everything else goes on the cat 2 tractor

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Re: Tractor catagory 1 quick hitch

It's just shocking that tractors today are still being manufactured with hitch technology invented during the 1930's.

I assume they are forced to because of all the implements out there would have to be modified, or parked in the weeds and forgotten.

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Another vote for the Pat's system.

I bought one of the early sets when he was still fabricating them in his shop...so cut and welded sections. The new versions appear to be a solid, one-piece casting. They also offer weld-on style rather than the clamp-on versions. I actually need to order a set of those for my Massey because the lift arms are nearly Cat 2 size, but Cat 1 balls so the Cat 1 clamp-on won't fit the arms.

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Originally Posted by Country Metals

I still have to get things done, and it looks like the Pat's system is the way to go.

For now, I just plan on getting a lot of the washers and that will probably work just fine for me.

One hint on updating the Pat's, after it arrives.

Install the adapters on the tractor, it will include a bunch of bolts to "clamp" the adapters to the tractor arms.

THEN,, rather than using those bolts, determine what the EXACT length of the bolt should be (shortest possible)
(The bolts supplied with the Pat's system are WAY over length)

Go to Tractor Supply (or somewhere like that) and select the correct length bolts IN GRADE 8.

The Grade 8 bolts are harder, and stay in place much better.

If you look at my pics, you can see the gold color Grade 8 bolts.

Grade 9 bolts would even be better, but, that bolt store was too far of a ride the day I got my new bolts,, so I just bought the Grade 8.