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Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by KenO There is a forklift fork junk yard near me that sells new and used. They have an add on Facebook marketplace: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...c-653afdd85aa7 Thanks for the FB marketplace link. I did some poking around, unfortunately this little machine uses some weird forks. Too bad they are so far away, shipping would kill me. Tonight I "load tested" it with twelve 80lb bags of quickcrete. Definitely the limit for both the little forklift and the little pickup. I really like the extended carriage, I can get a good bite on the pallet without pulling it out past the bumper. It unloaded the truck and made it down the driveway no problem. For good measure I threw on three more bags and lifted it. 120% and the forks didn't snap off. Attachment 1730275 Attachment 1730276 Attachment 1730277
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks There is a forklift fork junk yard near me that sells new and used. They have an add on Facebook marketplace: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...c-653afdd85aa7
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Truly nice work![emoji481] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I welded the hooks on with 11018. I used a ~300 degree preheat and tried to keep my interpass about the same. I peened the welds with the needle scaler between passes and generally took my time. I welded the sides first, then the top, and finally the inside of the angle. I fretted over the weld order as I was really concerned it might close up on me making them impossible to install on the carriage. In the end my worry was unfounded. Everything welded out fine. I then wrapped them in k-wool until they normalized to room temperature. Tonight I move a few pallets around and they work a LOT better than the extensions. I still need to make the pins but they are good enough to use. A truck is coming on Monday so we'll see how it goes. To setup the lower hook I cut a piece of scrap that measured 200 mm and then spaced the hook on a 5mm hex key. Attachment 1730165 One of the forks has a chip in the end. I am planning on cutting them down a few inches. They are 52" long right now. I definitely need to round the corners. I haven't decided what shape I'd like the ends to be. Attachment 1730166 Attachment 1730167
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I finished the bottom hooks today. They are similar to the top hooks but 10 mm narrower. A narrower hook on the bottom makes it easier to install and move the fork. I then laid out the hooks and decided on a final cut length. I milled the forks to a the final length. I'm into this way too much to risk a poor bandsaw cut. I ended up with a 1/2" more drop due to the thicker fork but the top of the fork is the same as the originals. Overall they actually look pretty good on the machine. I am definitely ready to have real forks, using extensions is getting old. Attachment 1730141
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by whtbaron I used to think skid steers would be too small to be of any use, but after borrowing a couple, I changed my mind in a hurry. Once you get up in that 70 to 90 hp range they can do a lot of work in a hurry and the front entry is easy access. LOL... couldn't figure out what a car was doing on top of your garage until I realized I was looking at the top of your cab! Might be overdue for a new set of grandpa glasses... or at least put the ones I have on... Forks on any loader are so versatile with the range of motion. Nice being able to get the forks pointing down near perpendicular. I've never run a big skid steer. Our Case Uniloader was only 37 HP. LOL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I used to think skid steers would be too small to be of any use, but after borrowing a couple, I changed my mind in a hurry. Once you get up in that 70 to 90 hp range they can do a lot of work in a hurry and the front entry is easy access. LOL... couldn't figure out what a car was doing on top of your garage until I realized I was looking at the top of your cab! Might be overdue for a new set of grandpa glasses... or at least put the ones I have on...
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Yeah. I just placed it inside the door with the forklift and used the pallet jack to put it in place. After 60 years of working alone there’s not much I can’t move IF I take my time and think it out. [emoji1] I’m gonna miss the telehandler with Q/A forks and attachments though. If I ever won the lottery (which ain’t gonna happen cuz I refuse to buy tickets) I think one of those mini JCB telehandlers the rental yards have would be sweet. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I'm thinking skid steer with quick attach's .... that gym would be a tight fit for my CAT loader...
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by whtbaron That's when you need it the most. Tired of lifting heavy stuff... I’ve been spoiled. I grew up always having a forklift on the farm. Had seven here when I packed it in not counting all the sets of forks for the wheel loaders and telehandler. I kept one. Here is a typical example of getting the barbell rack I built from my shop to my home gym… Without a forklift I will cease to exist. I will cease to function without a forklift. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by smithdoor Nice forklift If was not retired I would want one. Dave That's when you need it the most. Tired of lifting heavy stuff...
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Wow. Not a pleasant way to find that "you learn something new everyday" I've bought replacement forks before and never even thought to verify the hook angle. I do know that height varies for pin style hanging forks though. Nice job!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by farmersammm Coming along really nice. You have some nice machines to work with Thanks. Unfortunately, after I milled off the carrier and checked the fit on the machine I discovered that it wasn't a 20 degree taper as specified in the FEM/ISO/ITA standards. Everything else looked right so I assumed everyone used 20 degrees from the dawn of time. Turns out the Japanese were doing their own thing in the early 80s. I never could find a JIS standard from the 80s to compare. I suspect this is why my local Toyota dealer wasn't helpful. I had received quotes from a couple places and nobody ever suggested the hooks would be anything other than 20 degrees. I used a simple plastic angle gauge and discovered it was actually 25 degrees. Doh! You really should look at the patent for this simple parallel arm protractor: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4766675A/en Attachment 1729937 The new part fits well. Both the angled face and the base now make contact. Attachment 1729938 I created a modified version of the FEM/ISO class 1 hook with a 25 degree taper. I verified the spacing by measuring over a pin, in this case 0.62" (sorry no metric gage pins). I then simply changed the angle. This should give the forks about 1 mm of space to facilitate moving them. My drawing is kinda messy but this should give you an idea of the design. Attachment 1729939 I clamped the hooks top and bottom to a chunk of cribbing and the hooks appear to hang properly, and most importantly, you can slide it on the carriage. I can now see just how worn out the old set of forks really are. Attachment 1729940
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Coming along really nice. You have some nice machines to work with
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Nice forklift If was not retired I would want one. Dave Originally Posted by forhire Last week I picked up a clean little Toyota 2FGL7 forklift. It's clearly a gray market import as all the markings are in Japanese. I picked it up cheap because the clutch was stuck. It took all of 30 minutes to pull the cover, slide the throwout bearing back, unbolt the pressure plate, and pop the disk free. Yeah! Of course it's taking a LOT longer to sort the brakes. After rebuilding the master cylinder and adjusting the brakes I discovered one side was adjust all the way out. New shoes are on their way. Aside from a stuck clutch and brakes it runs strong and is darn cute. It's only rated at 450kg (1000 lbs) but it's super maneuverable in the shop and doesn't take up much parking space. It has a D mast, for dumping, which is really neat except the installed forks are very short. They appear to have started out as 30" forks and the dumping use has worn them down a few inches under that. Short forks are fine in the shop but they are proving too short to use with standard pallets. I hung a set of 36" class 2 forks today and moved a few of my typical pallets around, 36" is fine but 42" would be better. Yeah I know it was sketchy but it was for science. At first glance the forks appear to be FEM/ITA Class 1 with one small exception, unlike a typical class 1 fork that has 13" hook spacing, this one has 9" hook spacing. Hooks and everything else are correct for class 1 aside from the spacing. The manual lists a 1070mm fork (42") but I am having a real problem finding these forks. Heck, I'm having trouble finding any class 1 forks. Does anyone know of any forklift junk yards that may have some of these small machines rusting away? I have quote for some custom forks but they are not in the budget. I'll post some pictures of the machine tomorrow. I know boostjdm and a few others have messed around with these small machines. Maybe someone with some experience will chime in. Attachment 1729013
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by Lis2323 You can always foam fill the tires. Good point. I suppose if I have issues that would be easy enough. I normally have to air up the neighbors big forklift every time I use it. Maybe he should foam fill his tires? I finished machining the first side of the hanger based on the FEM/ISO Class 1 specification this morning. Now I need to check the fit. Attachment 1729671
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks You can always foam fill the tires. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by Welder Dave I thought they used to say if it's got -its or tires it will give you trouble. Now it looks like if it has tires with -its it makes things better. Pneumatic tires are more maintenance day to day but give a more comfortable ride. If your on concrete all day solid tires are a lot less trouble. I drove it to the house today, down the alley and around the block, to move the concrete mixer, and the ride was a LOT better than the last time.
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I thought they used to say if it's got -its or tires it will give you trouble. Now it looks like if it has tires with -its it makes things better.
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Originally Posted by Welder Dave I'd guess the forks could be T-1 steel so preheat and 11018 would be the rod of choice. If not sure of the fork material a specialty rod based on 312 stainless would be a good option. Something like Supermissleweld rod or other rod designed for difficult to weld steels in the 120,000 to 130,000 tensile range. You can buy these in small packages is why I suggested them. I think your right. I was planning on 11018 because that's what I have on hand. The supermissleweld looks pretty good but I've never used it. I've been too busy to start machining the hooks. I installed the new steer tires and tried out my $5, garage sale find, electric impact wrench. I then moved some drums of used oil. The black drum of hydraulic oil is nearly empty. All in I'm probably close to 900 lbs. No issues. Before I replaced the tires I would spin a lot on the gravel now it's great. I wasn't sure buying new tires would make much difference but it's been worth every penny. Attachment 1729603 Attachment 1729604
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I'd guess the forks could be T-1 steel so preheat and 11018 would be the rod of choice. If not sure of the fork material a specialty rod based on 312 stainless would be a good option. Something like Supermissleweld rod or other rod designed for difficult to weld steels in the 120,000 to 130,000 tensile range. You can buy these in small packages is why I suggested them.
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks Now I need to make the hooks. I pulled the pin mechanism apart and took some measurements. I also messed around with a few replacement springs. In my opinion these springs are too small and tend to rust away to dust after a few years. I may rework the design a bit. It appears they welded the hook, then drilled through the weld and hook for the pin, and finally welded on the top slot cup. Attachment 1729491 Attachment 1729492 Attachment 1729493
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks I finished the second fork today. I remembered to snap a photo of the lengthwise operation. The final thing I needed to do was to cut off the hooks. They were two big for the cutoff saw and the little band saw so I started after it with the cut off wheel and while I struggled to get the wheel into the part if dawned on me the porta-band might be able to slice these off. Sure enough, the porta-band made quick work of it. Now I can start making the hooks. I think I'll make them out of the drop. I can't find a source for class 1 hooks. Attachment 1729469 Attachment 1729470
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks NICE!!! [emoji481] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Toyota 2FGL7 forklift tines or forks A friend gave me an 8" wide by 52" long lumber fork that had no mate. I started by cutting down the hanger on the bandsaw. It made quick work of it... until I ran out of throat and had to roll it. I was actually surprised how easy it was to cut down. Not sure what it weighed but the drop was 45 lbs. I then used cut off wheels to slice it length wise giving me two 4" forks. By the end I had a technique but it was no fun. Next I mounted a few vices in the mill and cleaned up both sides. These little machines use 80mm width forks so I took 15mm off one side and the balance on the other. That trimmed another 20 lbs. The fork now weighs in right around 60 lbs. It's been a fair amount of work so far but I'm happy with the progress. I should note that the forks machine fairly well. The VMC only has 41.375" (1050mm) in the X direction so it took some shifting to clean up lengthwise. I didn't snap any photos. I then hung the fork out the door to do the upright. I had to be careful not home the Y axis or it would rapid a fork straight at me. This was easier than moving/rotating the vises. One down, and one to go. Yeah Attachment 1729441 Attachment 1729442 Attachment 1729443 Attachment 1729444 Attachment 1729445
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