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    Im trying to see a down side to this

    But then again this did happen


    I just want to know one thing
    If this is such an Emergency and can't wait

    Why did Harry Reid and the Democrats close the Senate leave for the weekend and Obummer go play Golf ????

    While the house stayed in session
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick120 View Post
    Much as I hate to even look in this thread, what a croc of sh!t the US administration is looking to the rest of us.
    If those idiots don't decide on something, and fast, we're gonna have another GFC on our hands....
    Your lot is making the Italians and Greeks look good.....
    Yeah wait till next elections... Americans amazingly short memories will have them voting the same idiots back into office. I am firing every incumbent I can vote against. Their job is to run the government. They are not doing their job= fired.


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    I have always wanted term limits because of the graft that they all fall into eventually
    it's how they get rich and develop god complexes like nancy pelosi who thinks a cut of her pay is beneath her even she is rich way beyond her needs and got it through insider trading...What about paying your fair share

    Then we have dianne Feinstein who wants you disarmed but refuses to give up her gun and CCW

    And then we have Obummer and the Democrats in the senate that have exempted themselves their staffs and all federal employees from Obummercare ..Because that is how they voted last night
    And they won't even debate it and yes i know it also had the delay Obummercare for a year for us peons in it ...But still they will not debate it at all

    what was it Obummer said about being NON partisan ...gonna bring change to washington ...he did that alright

    This is government as usual and has No Political affiliation and happens no matter who is the current administration...I just want to know WTF..And who authorized this ..
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    Saw this on the news and it's "Politically CORRECT" for a change...


    In the midst of the madness, Jay Leno may have put it best when he joked, "The Republicans are pointing the finger at the Democratics, the Democrats are pointing the finger at the Republicans, and the Americans are pointing the middle finger at both of them."




    SO TRUE!!!!
    I think that all the congress dolts should NOT get paid either..



    Like that's gonna happen...


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    Quote Originally Posted by killdozerd11 View Post
    I have always wanted term limits because of the graft that they all fall into eventually
    it's how they get rich and develop god complexes like nancy pelosi who thinks a cut of her pay is beneath her even she is rich way beyond her needs and got it through insider trading...What about paying your fair share

    Then we have dianne Feinstein who wants you disarmed but refuses to give up her gun and CCW

    And then we have Obummer and the Democrats in the senate that have exempted themselves their staffs and all federal employees from Obummercare ..Because that is how they voted last night
    And they won't even debate it and yes i know it also had the delay Obummercare for a year for us peons in it ...But still they will not debate it at all

    what was it Obummer said about being NON partisan ...gonna bring change to washington ...he did that alright

    This is government as usual and has No Political affiliation and happens no matter who is the current administration...I just want to know WTF..And who authorized this ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by zapster View Post
    Saw this on the news and it's "Politically CORRECT" for a change...


    In the midst of the madness, Jay Leno may have put it best when he joked, "The Republicans are pointing the finger at the Democratics, the Democrats are pointing the finger at the Republicans, and the Americans are pointing the middle finger at both of them."




    SO TRUE!!!!
    I think that all the congress dolts should NOT get paid either..



    Like that's gonna happen...


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    I don't like Leno, but he definitely got that one right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick120 View Post
    Much as I hate to even look in this thread, what a croc of sh!t the US administration is looking to the rest of us.
    If those idiots don't decide on something, and fast, we're gonna have another GFC on our hands....
    Your lot is making the Italians and Greeks look good.....
    Actually if you look at it mathematically the USA economy is worse than Spains.
    The USA is like what happens when someone is broke and uses credit cards to put off the reckoning.
    It never ends well.
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    Food for thought:
    800,000 people get furloughed to save $$$.
    After they go back to work, they will be receiving 100% of their back pay.

    How is that "saving" money??
    Since all of my Gov't contracts basically stopped the minute Obummer was voted in, I basically feel like the shutdown has been going on for the last year anyway...
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    My wife is a fed they don't always get back pay

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    They are pretty much hosed depending on how long it goes. They are not aloud to look for a temporary job or file for unemployment. Or take any money from there 401k. Hopeing I can pick up more welding work. To keep the farm afloat. Pretty crappy way to deal with an illogical argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeldingMachine View Post
    Food for thought:
    800,000 people get furloughed to save $$$.
    After they go back to work, they will be receiving 100% of their back pay.

    How is that "saving" money??
    Since all of my Gov't contracts basically stopped the minute Obummer was voted in, I basically feel like the shutdown has been going on for the last year anyway...
    The furloughs that happened earlier this year were administrative days off that saved money...no work, no pay, no back-pay. But instead of cutting non-performing programs, which is what Obama said he'd do back in '08, it was government-wide. The current furlough is happening because the congress has not passed appropriations--it's not intended to save money.

    I have to say that I'm glad the Tea Party is pushing this. The democrats slammed Obamacare down everybody's throat (with socialist Americans cheering them on) and the Supreme Court set a precedent by rewriting the administration's argument when the constitutionality of it was challenged. It's not a national social health care system, said Chief Justice Roberts, it's a tax, and taxation is a federal power enumerated in the Constitution. Under that standard, the federal gov't's power is unlimited so long as whatever it wants to do can be framed as a tax. What nonsense. The Founders are rolling in their graves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by q240z View Post
    The furloughs that happened earlier this year were administrative days off that saved money...no work, no pay, no back-pay. But instead of cutting non-performing programs, which is what Obama said he'd do back in '08, it was government-wide. The current furlough is happening because the congress has not passed appropriations--it's not intended to save money.

    I have to say that I'm glad the Tea Party is pushing this. The democrats slammed Obamacare down everybody's throat (with socialist Americans cheering them on) and the Supreme Court set a precedent by rewriting the administration's argument when the constitutionality of it was challenged. It's not a national social health care system, said Chief Justice Roberts, it's a tax, and taxation is a federal power enumerated in the Constitution. Under that standard, the federal gov't's power is unlimited so long as whatever it wants to do can be framed as a tax. What nonsense. The Founders are rolling in their graves.
    The days off did not save money, they just hired contractors to do the work. Comes out of a different fund. Costs more than paying a fed but different budget.

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    The days off did not save money, they just hired contractors to do the work. Comes out of a different fund. Costs more than paying a fed but different budget.

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    If they are union members how is that allowed under the union contract

    But then again only Congress can make or change laws
    But look at how many changes have happened to Obummercare and congress had nothing to do with it

    Obummer decides what laws are enforced and what parts of laws will be enforced or not enforced...so where does it say in the constitution that Obummer and the executive branch are allowed to do this

    It doesn't ..It says only congress can make law ...But Obummer is supposed to be a constitutional attorney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick120 View Post
    All this talk of raising the debt ceiling (again) is going to end in tears.
    Someone's going to have to pay the piper.
    Read this somewhere else:

    "You come home from work and find there has been a sewer backup and you have sewage up to your ceilings.
    What do you do?
    Raise the ceilings, or pump out the crap?"

    Of course one would be wise to fix the backup in the process.
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    I know it'll never happen but I'd like to see a law stating if a budget, not a CR, is not passed by the set date then all pay for senators, representatives, their staff, the prez and all his appointees will immediately stop and not resume until a budget is passed.
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    Best wake up the folks because you really are not gonna like this if you're on a fixed income

    What is this attaching your bank account and putting a lien on your home for not paying for Obama care http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-fi...bank-accounts/


    I know it'll never happen but I'd like to see a law stating if a budget, not a CR, is not passed by the set date then all pay for senators, representatives, their staff, the prez and all his appointees will immediately stop and not resume until a budget is passed.
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    Yeah in Kalifornia we got a law like that
    and every year they (the Democrats that run this state) Just cook the books and jumble numbers get there pay
    And then it's ..Oop's we made a mistake ..but it's to late they got their money and it's never their fault that the budget don't work etc ad nauseum
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    Quote Originally Posted by darlingtonfarm View Post
    The days off did not save money, they just hired contractors to do the work. Comes out of a different fund. Costs more than paying a fed but different budget.
    I know quite a few feds. No contractors came in to do work while they were on sequestration furloughs. Maybe that happened at certain departments or agencies, but I don't think it was common.

    Anyway, I heard a funny thing on the radio the other day. A reporter was interviewing somebody to show how gov't shutdowns don't just affect federal employees and welfare queens...so she interviewed a woman who runs a Head Start daycare/welfare giveaway center. The irony just about killed me.

    Here we have the Tea Party trying to stop the implementation of Obamacare because once a federal program is institutionalized it's permanent. Head Start is a nearly perfect example of a social engineering failure that nobody is willing to try to shut down. For 40 years the federal department that oversees Head Start has produced periodical reports on how it's doing relative to its stated goal, which is to break the "cycle of poverty" by teaching poor parents how to be good parents and showing kids how to be good students. The theory is that feeding a kid well and teaching them good study habits will put them on a path to success.

    The problem is that it doesn't do either. The periodical reports consistently show that shortly after leaving Head Start and entering school, the kids tend to drop in performance. The statistics also show that for some of the poorest of the poor, participation in Head Start is correlated with lower grades than other very poor kids who don't use the federal program. Head Start simply does not work as the social engineers thought it would, though it does cost a few billion a year and gives people free daycare and food for the kids they can't afford.

    Obama said in 2008 that he'd go through the budget line by line and cut non-performing programs. I wonder what would happen if the Tea Party pulled their opposition to Obamacare and instead gave the President a chance to make good on his campaign promise?
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    It made me awfully proud of all the people standing by the WWII vets at the memorial and then taking it,and the barrycades, to the white house. I'm hoping BO and all the mental midgets in congress have crossed a line they won't be able to step back over.
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    My Government has made me so proud of them....NOT

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    Hi......looking at the antics of so called politics in the administration of a country, especially the aspect of a democratic process for your "safety" from the tyranny of a dictator or someone with absolute power to act....it seems to me that having won the majority to rule the country, you get tied in knots by those that failed to get the numbers.....that's ludicrous.

    In my opinion, when you get the green light to rule the country.......you should also get carte blanch to do it your way......that's why the majority voted you into power, it couldn't be any worse than the present governmental fiasco.

    If you think this is crap......just what is happening right now with a government that can't act because their hands are tied by those that failed to get the mandate to rule.

    I say, back to the middle ages when a monarch said "sh!t", and ten thousand arseholes bit the dust......a few heads on spiked poles soon convinced the opposition that it was unwise to be an arsehole just for the sake of it.

    I'd like to have seen someone tell king Henry 8th what he could or couldn't do........LOL.

    How stupid can you people be....you vote a man into the highest office for a short tem, tell him what he can't do and then blame him for his inability to perform......ya' all are going round and round in small circles and are now entering the place where the sun don't shine.........tell me it isn't so.....you is deep in the sh!t, so where did it come from....LOL.

    I may be prone to correction from time to time, but on this score I am dead right.......your present mode of government is not working, so when are you going to wake up and look in the mirror and realise that you got it all wrong when you kicked the Brits out in the 1700's.....kicking the parents out of the house and letting the kids do their thing is a recipe for disaster......history is bearing testimony to that fact.......tell me I'm wrong.
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    Puddytat - I'd like to follow your advice and put your head on a pole for being an "arsehole just for the sake of it."

    Learn to shut your donkeyhole more often - thanks.

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    The United States government is run by three branches. It is what is called "checks and balances" so that citizens don't get something shoved down their throats.

    What is happening now is the "checks and balances" being acted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    Hi......looking at the antics of so called politics in the administration of a country, especially the aspect of a democratic process for your "safety" from the tyranny of a dictator or someone with absolute power to act....it seems to me that having won the majority to rule the country, you get tied in knots by those that failed to get the numbers.....that's ludicrous.

    In my opinion, when you get the green light to rule the country.......you should also get carte blanch to do it your way......that's why the majority voted you into power, it couldn't be any worse than the present governmental fiasco.

    If you think this is crap......just what is happening right now with a government that can't act because their hands are tied by those that failed to get the mandate to rule.

    I say, back to the middle ages when a monarch said "sh!t", and ten thousand arseholes bit the dust......a few heads on spiked poles soon convinced the opposition that it was unwise to be an arsehole just for the sake of it.

    I'd like to have seen someone tell king Henry 8th what he could or couldn't do........LOL.

    How stupid can you people be....you vote a man into the highest office for a short tem, tell him what he can't do and then blame him for his inability to perform......ya' all are going round and round in small circles and are now entering the place where the sun don't shine.........tell me it isn't so.....you is deep in the sh!t, so where did it come from....LOL.

    I may be prone to correction from time to time, but on this score I am dead right.......your present mode of government is not working, so when are you going to wake up and look in the mirror and realise that you got it all wrong when you kicked the Brits out in the 1700's.....kicking the parents out of the house and letting the kids do their thing is a recipe for disaster......history is bearing testimony to that fact.......tell me I'm wrong.
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    Puddytat, ya don't have a dog in this fight!! We do!!
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    Puddy i think you need to go to russia and show them how it's done ....oop's to late putin already did it
    But don't let that stop you from going...or since you prefer chicom china would be proud to have a welder of your caliber

    But when it comes to my country STFU
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