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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR8 View Post
    Pardon my ignorance but what is “groused stock”?


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    Grouser stock, used for rebuilding dozer pads. The grouser is the "cleat" on the track pad. Very tough stuff that work hardens in rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lis2323 View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR8 View Post
    Pardon my ignorance but what is “groused stock”?


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    Grouser stock is 25% of what Charlie Abbott hauled home from 200 auctions. Sorry, I digress. Grouser stock is the manganese steel shaped in a squashed diamond cross section. Manganese steel remains tough after welding. While some steel might get brittle after welding. Hardened steel gets soft welding. Manganese alloyed steel is resistant to brittle breakage, but surface hardens with abuse. It's almost magic. Its traditional use is all the tricky stuff done to control wear, prevent sideslip, or regain traction on bulldozer tracks. Usually sold in 10' lengths, all different sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12V71 View Post
    Grouser stock, used for rebuilding dozer pads. The grouser is the "cleat" on the track pad. Very tough stuff that work hardens in rock.
    Thanks, I learn much from you good folks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    Grouser stock is 25% of what Charlie Abbott hauled home from 200 auctions. Sorry, I digress. Grouser stock is the manganese steel shaped in a squashed diamond cross section. Manganese steel remains tough after welding. While some steel might get brittle after welding. Hardened steel gets soft welding. Manganese alloyed steel is resistant to brittle breakage, but surface hardens with abuse. It's almost magic. Its traditional use is all the tricky stuff done to control wear, prevent sideslip, or regain traction on bulldozer tracks. Usually sold in 10' lengths, all different sizes.
    Ah right, I remember that from my days working road construction with my dad.
    Thanks for the metallurgy details!


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    I use it for everything because I have a bunch. Side cutters on backhoe buckets, Along the bottom edges of the sides on said backhoe buckets. I've owned a few loaders with non bolt on edges. It's easy to draw a straight edge, torch it straight & add a piece of grouser stock. I find the corners of bucket edges wear sooner than the middle. A six inch long repair at each end adds years to a cutting edge. Many places ground contact wear is to be prevented, weld on grouser stock.
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    Repaired a pin that was cracked. Removed the plate, then machined a bevel on the pin and the inside of the hole then welded. Took 3 passes to fill and cap.

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    Nice work! What do those pins go to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcTan View Post
    Nice work! What do those pins go to?
    They are the mounting pins for the tower base on an amusement ride.
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    If I need to weld new tooth shanks on I will get slightly larger pin on shanks than the crimped on style my skid steer has. The teeth are welded and tops usually wear out or the extended part with the bevel breaks. Forged teeth are about the same price, last longer and are easier to replace. I don't think it matters much if the shanks are welded completely solid or have a hole at the edge. The cutting edge will have pretty much got heated the same. Factory shanks may use an automated or high production process which could explain why the shanks aren't completely seal welded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    I use it for everything because I have a bunch. Side cutters on backhoe buckets, Along the bottom edges of the sides on said backhoe buckets. I've owned a few loaders with non bolt on edges. It's easy to draw a straight edge, torch it straight & add a piece of grouser stock. I find the corners of bucket edges wear sooner than the middle. A six inch long repair at each end adds years to a cutting edge. Many places ground contact wear is to be prevented, weld on grouser stock.
    I should come see you and trade you some hard cider for grouser stock! I usually use hard facing rods when I need better wear resistance but that stuff would be much less hassle.
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    Repaired a pin that was cracked . . . Took 3 passes to fill and cap.
    This may be of general interest . . .
    https://weldingweb.com/vbb/search.php?searchid=32509110

    This may be specific interest . . .
    https://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthrea...erse+shrinkage

    Note ManoKai's response - Post #13.

    You need to spin the telescope . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPUS FERRO View Post

    Capt B




    This may be of general interest . . .
    https://weldingweb.com/vbb/search.php?searchid=32509110

    This may be specific interest . . .
    https://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthrea...erse+shrinkage

    hth


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    The first link didn't open, I looked at the second. This cracked because it was stuck and we used wedges behind the head to pull it out, there is no access on the other side to push it out. Which caused a small crack in the weld holding the plate at the end of the pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt B View Post
    The first link didn't open, I looked at the second.

    This cracked because it was stuck and we used wedges behind
    the head to pull it out, there is no access on the other side to
    push it out.

    Which caused a small crack in the weld holding the plate at the
    end of the pin.
    In my experience: all [important] pins that 'cannot be pushed',
    have built-in features, 'to be pulled' . . .

    The first link: [web-oem] opens - my post link, opens - your
    post link, opens. Try again . . .

    My links address: your post failure 'Weld Procedure' - or the
    lack there of . . .


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    Where are you at?
    I used to make hard cider. Picked & pressed the apples myself first two years 45 years ago. Dad was OK with underage drinking as long as it involved a ridiculous amount of hard labor. Local farmers had only been on their present farm 5 generations. They moved a couple miles after two generations had been there. Much of their equipment dated back seven generations. They were OK with me & friends getting the cider equipment out, cleaned & lubricated. First couple years mine wasn't great.

    Mrs B doesn't approve, so last four years I didn't make any.
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    Made a simple Tig hand rest, height is adjustable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therider View Post
    Made a simple Tig hand rest, height is adjustable.

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    Nice, I have been meaning to make some sort of rest like that for my positioner.
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    Also made a third hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    Where are you at?
    I used to make hard cider. Picked & pressed the apples myself first two years 45 years ago. Dad was OK with underage drinking as long as it involved a ridiculous amount of hard labor. Local farmers had only been on their present farm 5 generations. They moved a couple miles after two generations had been there. Much of their equipment dated back seven generations. They were OK with me & friends getting the cider equipment out, cleaned & lubricated. First couple years mine wasn't great.

    Mrs B doesn't approve, so last four years I didn't make any.
    I'm in Chester.

    This will be my fourth season making cider. It's fun experimenting with different types of yeast and such to get different results.

    Not sure how old my rig is but I know it's older than me! Probably by 80 years!

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    Cool, that is doing it the hard way. Do you ferment in wood or glass?

    My early efforts were with a commercial press likely 100 years old 45 years ago. The owners were rumored to make brandy sold to the Equinox Hotel in Manchester during Prohibition. Their press was first powered by steam engine. By the time I used it we used a John Deere tractor with 50 foot long wide belt in a figure 8. Grinder & hydraulic pump were powered by one shaft. You ground about a bushel at a time, made layers of burlap, and flats of 2 layers of oak strips. I believe the press was rated at 10 tons.

    I've fortified with sugar, or maple to ferment to 10-13% ABV. Some of it I have then frozen to further fortify. I've never distilled any, but tempted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    Cool, that is doing it the hard way. Do you ferment in wood or glass?

    My early efforts were with a commercial press likely 100 years old 45 years ago. The owners were rumored to make brandy sold to the Equinox Hotel in Manchester during Prohibition. Their press was first powered by steam engine. By the time I used it we used a John Deere tractor with 50 foot long wide belt in a figure 8. Grinder & hydraulic pump were powered by one shaft. You ground about a bushel at a time, made layers of burlap, and flats of 2 layers of oak strips. I believe the press was rated at 10 tons.

    I've fortified with sugar, or maple to ferment to 10-13% ABV. Some of it I have then frozen to further fortify. I've never distilled any, but tempted.
    Cool!!!! You might get a spot on TV if you started your own distillery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    Cool, that is doing it the hard way. Do you ferment in wood or glass?

    My early efforts were with a commercial press likely 100 years old 45 years ago. The owners were rumored to make brandy sold to the Equinox Hotel in Manchester during Prohibition. Their press was first powered by steam engine. By the time I used it we used a John Deere tractor with 50 foot long wide belt in a figure 8. Grinder & hydraulic pump were powered by one shaft. You ground about a bushel at a time, made layers of burlap, and flats of 2 layers of oak strips. I believe the press was rated at 10 tons.

    I've fortified with sugar, or maple to ferment to 10-13% ABV. Some of it I have then frozen to further fortify. I've never distilled any, but tempted.
    Or... you might get a spot in the graybar hotel if you started your own distillery

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    Quote Originally Posted by therider View Post
    Also made a third hand.

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    Those look very "hand"y...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronsii View Post
    Or... you might get a spot in the graybar hotel if you started your own distillery
    No, it's legal. I believe 200 gallons a year, (I might be wrong). It gets very sticky if you sell. Government wants to inspect your facility, process, and collect lots of fees, taxes.
    Of course, the lawyers need to get their cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    No, it's legal. I believe 200 gallons a year, (I might be wrong). It gets very sticky if you sell. Government wants to inspect your facility, process, and collect lots of fees, taxes.
    Of course, the lawyers need to get their cut.
    It is permissible to make beer/wine. Distillation of any spirit is 100% illegal. Some moonshine equipment makers get around this by advising customers to apply for a fuel permit. It is legal to make your own fuel, however the premises must be a separate building from the residence, complete logs must be kept, all “fuel” must be denatured and you are subject to surprise inspections at any time. Even with a fuel permit some state make it illegal to own any kind of distilling equipment such as a condenser or distillation column. http://www.distillate.org/laws/Texas Posted the link for TX laws that indicate even a setup to distill water is illegal as it could produce alcohol.

    The ATF has even gone to still manufacturers with warrants and taken all customer purchase records to check on the legality of these fuel stills and a couple of folks made an example of.
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