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It’s good till it’s not
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Had a guy that did tires for us fix a flat on a small split ring tire ,when putting it together the truck driver asked him if he was goin to put tire in cage . The tire guy said no it’s a small tire,truck driver went outside. While outside he heard an explosion . The tire blew the ring off and took the top tire guys head off. This guy had done thousands of tires .
That’s why I said it’s good till it’s not.
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Originally Posted by
ronsii
And the science didn't change while the tire size did.... There IS science involved when Batts explode
and that's why I said I know what's good based on science.
Just ask yourself why Batts explode while welding next to them??? Of course you won't know the answer... But some research should help you out
I had a Gene 19/30 get the batteries blown up once when the guys left the charger plugged in and were welding with 6010 on top. Quite the Kaboom.
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12V71
I had a Gene 19/30 get the batteries blown up once when the guys left the charger plugged in and were welding with 6010 on top. Quite the Kaboom.
Yep, you make enough H and things go boom! I have exploded quite a few batts through the years all different types of them.
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When I was 13 or 14 I blew up the battery on my grandmother’s Oldsmobile while attempting to jump start a diesel powered irrigation unit. Quite the experience
And yes, I now know to connect the “dead” battery last.
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While in Alaska around 1967, had a part time job driving a small wrecker. Service call to jump start an Olds with a dead battery in the dead of winter. Raised the hood, connected the power pack and what a bang, Olds battery blew and thank goodness no spray in my eyes. Lesson learned very quickly, Tricky business those batteries......especially in winter.
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Never exploded a battery with a spark. I had a camper trailer plugged into shore power, meaning it was charging. As I walked past it one battery exploded. I'd compare the sound to a 12 gauge shotgun blast. I never did figure out if it was hydrogen explosion, or a vent plugged and pressure caused it. Battery was ruined, but no visible evidence of damage except I never did find the three cell cap.
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Originally Posted by
ronsii
And the science didn't change while the tire size did.... There IS science involved when Batts explode
and that's why I said I know what's good based on science.
Just ask yourself why Batts explode while welding next to them??? Of course you won't know the answer... But some research should help you out
It is oxygen and hydrogen. My father had one blow up once while he was working in a gas station, he was putting the slow charger to it while he was going to do something else, burned his eye's really bad. He said that while he was connecting it he saw strange little white sparks and them boom.
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William McCormick
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Originally Posted by
geezer
While in Alaska around 1967, had a part time job driving a small wrecker. Service call to jump start an Olds with a dead battery in the dead of winter. Raised the hood, connected the power pack and what a bang, Olds battery blew and thank goodness no spray in my eyes. Lesson learned very quickly, Tricky business those batteries......especially in winter.
That is why they recommend the last connection to the chassis. They should put a little copper stub wired to the battery on the chassis so you can make that last connection.
Sincerely,
William McCormick
If I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
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Originally Posted by
ronsii
One quick cut-n-weld job this morning:
Needed an 8inch bollard to match an existing one at the auburn muni airport warehouses... to I got a chunk of pipe from my buddy at his scrap yard and dug up an extra 12x12x1/2 plate I had laying around from some previous bolt down bollard job and went to work!
First, had to cut it square and to length... couldn't find my plastic pipe gauge
so a piece od cardboard worked in a pinch
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Then got it welded up to the base: Oh... that pipe weld near the top you see was on it from long ago
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This was the first pass... not too bad... had a couple spots that the gun started sticking and messed up but I won't bother showing them
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Then run up to the warehouse and get it installed, I timed a couple of the holes.. the concrete is at least 20 years old and seemed pretty good... not cracking apart like a lot of places - 3/4inch holes minimum drill down was 6 inches took ~40 seconds per hole maybe a bit less.
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Then got the base painted and slipped the bollard sleeve over it and stuck some of my 2 inch yellow retroreflective chinese special tape around the top and got out of there before anyone even came out to see what was going on
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Up here we would have to bury them and concrete them in.
Sincerely,
William McCormick
If I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
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Originally Posted by
William McCormick
Up here we would have to bury them and concrete them in.
Sincerely,
William McCormick
Yeah 90 percent of the bollards I install are shd.40 pipe 7 footers with a bury depth of 3-4 feet(usually 3foot)
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Originally Posted by
ronsii
Yes, I know that
was just trying to keep it simple for BLS - didn't want to overload him with too much science
I have seen plenty of sparks when hooking up batts!!! I probably stop and help people with automotive problems 25-30 times a year where the issue is a low or dead battery.. have ran into all kinds of people too
some of them hook the terminals up backwards!!! most of them don't know the proper sequence on and off
anymore the first thing I do is ask them if they know the 'proper way' to hook up jumper cables... and then do it myself
Same here. Any time I help someone boost with MY battery I have them stay in their vehicle while I do the hookups. (What I do best ). My personal/work pickup had Anderson connectors at the front bumper for jump starts.
At our soilmart yard , my staff had strict instructions to decline boost requests even if the customer had their own cables. Not worth the liability.
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Originally Posted by
Lis2323
Same here. Any time I help someone boost with MY battery I have them stay in their vehicle while I do the hookups. (What I do best
). My personal/work pickup had Anderson connectors at the front bumper for jump starts.
At our soilmart yard , my staff had strict instructions to decline boost requests even if the customer had their own cables. Not worth the liability.
Great idea!!! with the andersens... bought some 20 odd years ago to install on my truck... still have them in the box around here somewhere
Yeah, I had a guy hook em' up backwards once and it ended up toasting my $350 alternator in the truck after that I ask them.. then do it myself
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The added bonus of plug in cables is that nobody can borrow them and "forget" to return them. Even though I have a short adapter cable with a mating plug for jumping heavy equipment with 24V systems direct.
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12V71
The added bonus of plug in cables is that nobody can borrow them and "forget" to return them. .
Now you’ve done it. Watch them go missing in the near future.
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I am rather mystified that laws haven't been passed requiring those types of connectors be built into all vehicles. Or why the car makers haven't done it for liability reasons.
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ronsii
Was at my buddies welding a few brackets in the roof of a shed the other day right over top of these... and they didn't seem to blow up!! so I think it's ok
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working at my very first welding job an electric walk behind forklift's battery died. the shipping clerk (hofstra law student on summer break) sparking the battery charger connectors showing off while bending over the dead battery blew a corner off said battery with an accompanying explosion. after a search we found the battery corner; it was almost an inch thick iirc and one end was pointed and flaked almost like an old arrow head. nobody hurt just shaken up but an object lesson i never forgot.
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bead-boy
I am rather mystified that laws haven't been passed requiring those types of connectors be built into all vehicles. Or why the car makers haven't done it for liability reasons.
They actually went a different route..... have you tried to find the battery on some of these new vehicles lately??? a lot of them have a remote stud for hooking to because the battery is buried under a bunch of other crap!!!
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Originally Posted by
ronsii
They actually went a different route..... have you tried to find the battery on some of these new vehicles lately??? a lot of them have a remote stud for hooking to because the battery is buried under a bunch of other crap!!!
I had a wheel loader like that.
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ronsii
They actually went a different route..... have you tried to find the battery on some of these new vehicles lately??? a lot of them have a remote stud for hooking to because the battery is buried under a bunch of other crap!!!
Yeah, like under the back seat in newer Cadillacs. Or under the passenger seat in some newer trucks too.
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