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    That is almost enough lumber to rebuild the walls to 12'!
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    I hear you about the 7018 not being in an oven. No current certifications either.
    Well, as long as you used a 110V welder with those 3/16" rods, it should be OK.
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    I used the esab 161. Technically it could be a 110 volt welder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    I used the esab 161. Technically it could be a 110 volt welder.
    I've heard those things will darn near burn 1/4" rod on 110V, so those 3/16" rods you used shouldn't have been a problem for it. I used to use 3/16" rods with my Multimatic 200, but no matter how far I turned it down, it kept burning holes in 3/4" plate. I finally ended up clamping two 3/16" rods at a time in the stinger so I could get some control. One was a 6010 and the other was a 7018, that way I could put the root and cap in all in one pass.











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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone550 View Post
    I've heard those things will darn near burn 1/4" rod on 110V, so those 3/16" rods you used shouldn't have been a problem for it. I used to use 3/16" rods with my Multimatic 200, but no matter how far I turned it down, it kept burning holes in 3/4" plate. I finally ended up clamping two 3/16" rods at a time in the stinger so I could get some control. One was a 6010 and the other was a 7018, that way I could put the root and cap in all in one pass.











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    Damp 7018? You know that will never hold!

    Looking great.
    Don't worry, he did his post weld heat treating with a portable infrared set-up.
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    I can always bring over my Century 90 wire feed if you need a real welder.
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    Not a whole lot done since Monday, due to work. Disconnected power and raised it a little higherName:  IMG_20160601_193206601.jpg
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    Sitting about 10" off the foundation now.Name:  IMG_20160601_193152667.jpg
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    Hey Mike , YOU got it up 10 " !!!

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    Making progress!!
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    The actual raising doesn't take real long. Climbing around and over the bracing is a pain and will get worse until it's quite a bit higher.

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    Looking good!

    Hopefully it isn't to windy once it is all the way up before the walls get built.
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    I have some plates with a eye welded to them. I will anchor them to the slab and then tie it down with come alongs. It does take a large amount of cribbing to support everything.

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    Setting the block walls will probably take more time than it was to raise the building. At least if I were to set the blocks . My grandfather was a stone mason, and his 3 sons (uncles) also took up the trade. I guess I took after the other side of the family, not too sharp with a mortar trowel.
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    Sitting above the height for the blocks.Name:  IMG_20160604_160441027.jpg
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    How are you going to handle the utilities? I know you said you disconnected the electric, but how do you plan to reconnect that? And any other possible utilities like gas or water? Just curious. You seem to know what you are doing here...
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    The existing power comes off the 200 amp main from the house. There is a 125 amp add on panel in the garage. The panel will get lowered so the feeder wires will be long enough. Before the conduit came thru lower and then into the bottom of the panel. It will be changed to come into the back of the panel, above the height of the block. The outlets will be lowered as well as additional 230 volt outlets added. Lighting is pretty good already, so a large junction box will be added in the ceiling to lengthen the wires in the ceiling. A few 110 outlets will also be added to the ceiling for drop lights. There is currently a good size heater , ceiling mounted, running on propane. This will be converted to natural gas, hard piped along the upper wall. I have to find out if I or the gas company has to do the entrance into the building. There is no water to the building.

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    Thats gonna be a tall man door!
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    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    Sitting above the height for the blocks.Name:  IMG_20160604_160441027.jpg
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    Looking great!
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    Since it made it to this height relatively easy and I haven't received any nasty feedback from the village, I intend to go higher. 10' high door, 11'6" wall height to the finished ceiling. This would require 5 course of block. I have to lower the electrical anyway so not that much more work. The drawback will be the overly high windows, but I can live with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    Since it made it to this height relatively easy and I haven't received any nasty feedback from the village, I intend to go higher. 10' high door, 11'6" wall height to the finished ceiling. This would require 5 course of block. I have to lower the electrical anyway so not that much more work. The drawback will be the overly high windows, but I can live with that.
    Good plan! Plus the high window cuts down on the peeping toms checking out the super secret work of welders
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave View Post
    Good plan! Plus the high window cuts down on the peeping toms checking out the super secret work of welders
    It sure seems a lot different on the inside now. I did figure on framing in a opening on the front wall to put a window AC unit in, if I choose to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    It sure seems a lot different on the inside now. I did figure on framing in a opening on the front wall to put a window AC unit in, if I choose to.

    Since you have to add in anyway how about putting the AC unit over the man door?
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    I was guessing you might just lower the panel. Another option might be a cutoff box where the old wires can reach and leave the panel in place. Then you only have to stretch the feed wires by adding some between the cutoff box and the existing panel. Would save you from rewiring everything above the panel to lengthen wires. Of course it might make the panel too high to be reasonable, depending on where it ends up.

    I was able to do all my gas plumbing in my house build. To my knowledge there is no state law against it, for an owner/occupant, so it might just come down to anything the local guys could be picky about.
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