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    Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Which do you think would be the more useful setup.

    Lincoln Tig and Mig deal and I would get two carts to put these on.
    http://offers.lincolnelectric.com/ga...aign=GaragePak

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    The Miller 215 with all the accessories realize the Tig is only for steel,
    http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...package-907693

    Already have the Miller Dynasty 280 DX tig machine loaded but looking for a semi portable smaller mig and the Lincoln double deal looks attractive also.

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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Do you need the portable AC/DC tig that the Lncoln offers?

    The miller 215 has more output than the Lincoln and that package you linked includes a spoolgun along with the tig kit
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    If you are getting two carts with the Lincoln deal that IMO it's a better deal. You could always sell a cart and recoup some money for the Lincoln Spool gun if you ever have a need for one and you would have the added features of AC HF Tig iirc. Not sure if the SW200 does lift start tig but I want to say it does but IDK. You would get a foot pedal with the SW200 which may work on the 210MP. You would get two gas regulators so you don't have to switch regulators any time you switch from Mig to Tig. Oh yeah and you get two machines vs. just one so if one machine does ever fail you have one other machine to use while the dead machine gets repaired. With the Spool gun at $250.00 the Lincoln deal is still cheaper.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    FWIW,
    I sold my 210mp. I was one of those that ran into quality controls issues early on and really didn't like the responses I got. Saying, "don't worry about the wobble in the drive feeder, it doesn't make a big difference", is unacceptable for me. Of course, when they had the wheel adapter molded, they never told the china guys that 25 thousands run out is not OK.
    We all know Lincoln and the other biggies are now going to china. IMO, I'd rather go with guys that have "already been dealing and making china stuff for a while", unlike these guys what are just getting into it.
    Just my two cents.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by fps View Post
    FWIW,
    I sold my 210mp. I was one of those that ran into quality controls issues early on and really didn't like the responses I got. Saying, "don't worry about the wobble in the drive feeder, it doesn't make a big difference", is unacceptable for me. Of course, when they had the wheel adapter molded, they never told the china guys that 25 thousands run out is not OK.
    We all know Lincoln and the other biggies are now going to china. IMO, I'd rather go with guys that have "already been dealing and making china stuff for a while", unlike these guys what are just getting into it.
    Just my two cents.

    I just bought the Lincoln deal.

    How long ago did you buy one? Have they resolved the issue at all?
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Appreciate the points of view you have all shared.

    After researching them further I think I should wait on these and get a full size shop model. Maybe a 252 or 350P.

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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by danielplace View Post
    Appreciate the points of view you have all shared.

    After researching them further I think I should wait on these and get a full size shop model. Maybe a 252 or 350P.
    yeah, those are two of the finest portable units out there
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Jody Collier seems to love his 210mp and SW200. Uses it in most of his videos.

    Mine are arriving tomorrow il be sure to report back. Maybe il do an unboxing with photos.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    I tried the 200sw, welds good, but I don't like the pedal. Didn't seem to have much low end control, then seems to make a big jump to the upper amperage. But I'm used to using the AHP pedal which seems to have better and more linear amp control
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by soutthpaw View Post
    I tried the 200sw, welds good, but I don't like the pedal. Didn't seem to have much low end control, then seems to make a big jump to the upper amperage. But I'm used to using the AHP pedal which seems to have better and more linear amp control

    The AHP pedal would slide all over the floor on me. I don't have the Lincoln pedal yet but they charge $400 to buy it separately so it better not suck...
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    The AHP pedal would slide all over the floor on me. I don't have the Lincoln pedal yet but they charge $400 to buy it separately so it better not suck...
    There are a few different approaches to fix that sliding problem. It would be nice to see the inside of one.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by soutthpaw View Post
    There are a few different approaches to fix that sliding problem. It would be nice to see the inside of one.
    A major complaint I had with the AHP was also the TIG torch connection. I had the second generation one and it screwed on. I like to take everything apart and store things nice and organized when not in use.

    Of course they released a new version a year later with the dins connector.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    A major complaint I had with the AHP was also the TIG torch connection. I had the second generation one and it screwed on. I like to take everything apart and store things nice and organized when not in use.
    Yeah, the new connection is much better
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    The 210mp sw200 are pretty new I don't think Lincoln is going to replace them too soon. But if they suddenly release an adjustable post flow version after I buy this one il be pretty pissed lol.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    The 210mp sw200 are pretty new I don't think Lincoln is going to replace them too soon. But if they suddenly release an adjustable post flow version after I buy this one il be pretty pissed lol.
    The deal ends Aug 29th FYI
    You might be surprised at what gets announced at Fabtech this year. You may see added features like adjustable post flow, high speed pulse, lower start amps etc.
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    Re: Lincoln Tig and Mig deal or a Miller 215 ???

    Quote Originally Posted by soutthpaw View Post
    The deal ends Aug 29th FYI
    You might be surprised at what gets announced at Fabtech this year. You may see added features like adjustable post flow, high speed pulse, lower start amps etc.
    I wouldn't doubt that will be the case, i'll be annoyed but I got it at a discounted rate so its not so bad. Happens with anything you buy.
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