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    Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    I've been looking to get my first welder and while I think it's a must to have great MIG functionality, I think it would be great to get a machine that can also do stick and tig pretty well. Based on what I've read so far, the Lincoln 210 MP is great with mig and fine on stick and tig. The problem is that it's a bit pricier than some of the other options I've looked at (the Hobart 210 MVP and the Miller 211 (after rebate especially)), or the Millermatic 215 even (a little more expensive). Additionally, I am concerned about the longevity of the machine. It uses inverters rather than the old-school transformers and more concerning yet, it has a completely digital interface that I am concerned will be very expensive to fix should it fail.

    I'm wanting to hear your guys' opinions on this machine and what your thoughts are on what else could be better. Additionally, what price bottom do you guys see on these machines and how much can I reasonably purchase one for if I'm patient?

    Appreciate the help.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    It would be very hard in my opinion to answer this, I don't think anybody owns any 2 of these machine at once.
    Most of all the welders in your price range that are multi process are inverters. If you are afraid of digital display, go with a non digital display.
    I don't think any one is better then another.
    It is all about what your local welding supply store sells for ease of parts availability.
    But there will be bias people trying to convince you towards certain brands.

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Tweco 211 might still be around 800 at one online place Google it, hobart 210 or 190 at farm supply stores, got a ad from airgas today lincoln 180c 725.00 . To be honest if something brakes out of warranty most anything now days are throw away

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    You get what you pay for pretty much nowadays, unless you want to buy used old transformer machines, they're big, loud, cheap, suck up electric, and just keep working.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    I was back and forth on the hobart mvp and the millermatic 211. I really liked the idea of the transformer, but the weight of the the 211 won out. 78# to 38#. I dont know if portability is high on your priority list, but the weight difference between a transformer and an inverter machine may be something to consider.

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    This thread: http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...machine/page28

    Quote Originally Posted by AKweldshop View Post
    I own the fabricator 211i.
    I say it welds the same as the 210mp.
    If you don't mind the big and bulky with no carry handle, and need 44lb spool capacity, go for the 211i.
    The 210mp is a lot smaller and lighter. It will only take 10lb spools.
    I believe AKweldshop had a 210 MP before the 211i.

    211i can be had for $870. https://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.c...FQhMDQodCQkMkw
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    I like the Tweco stuff - my Fabricator hasn't let me down yet.

    Also, I think the inverter fear is a little extreme. Not yours specifically, but the general sentiment. In a professional setting, machine repair/replacement is just the cost of business. In a hobbiest setting, well, this is an expensive hobby.

    All told, I'm into the Fabricator for about $1k. Personal projects and side work (machining is my main gig). With a 3 year warranty (5 on some parts), I look at it as costing me $0.91/day. IF the machine dies after exactly 3 years. Compare that to a new car. At $20k, 20%/year depreciation, it costs $11/day. Not including financing charges and insurance. N

    In the past month I've spent several thousand on steel. Over the course of 3 years, the cost of replacing the welder is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of materials and consumables. Hell, in 3 years I'll end up spending just as much on gloves and lens for my hood.

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Yeah,

    I'm kind of Everlast-centric, but the Tweco 211 at the reduced $870 price seems a comparable unit to the Lincoln but at a much better price.

    On the other hand, if you really want to spend the $1350 for a Lincoln 210, an Everlast 251si Pulse MIG unit is on sale for $1350, via Amazon with free shipping and no State extortion (sales tax) outside of the Alta California taxing zone; it comes with all the TIG accessories too, and it has high frequency starts on TIG. The 251si seems like a pretty advanced unit, so it may seem a little daunting for a welding newcomer at first. But why not go BIG?, as the values are greater than ever before, I think.

    https://www.amazon.com/Everlast-Powe...Everlast+251si
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    This thread: http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...machine/page28



    I believe AKweldshop had a 210 MP before the 211i.

    211i can be had for $870. https://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.c...FQhMDQodCQkMkw
    This is an incredible deal.....

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    This is also an awesome deal but more money:
    Esab Fabricator 252i $1595. https://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.c...r-pkg-w1004401

    Usually people buy 110V migs and quickly find out that it isn't enough so they go buy 230V machine around 200 Amps.
    They weld a while and find out that they need something with just a little more power. So they and up with something that has 230 or more Amps.

    I don't think the Lincoln will drop below $1195 again. Lowest ever was $999 at introduction.

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    This is an incredible deal.....
    For $5 more, you can get a can of spray paint and make it purple, red, yellow or blue.

    Some years back, I bought a Lincoln SP-175 Plus for about $750. Good welder, but $120 bucks more for a multi-process inverter these days is a fair deal.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Livingstone View Post
    ... On the other hand, if you really want to ...
    If you really want to keep shilling Everlast and other low-buck Made-in-China welders, why don't you find another forum to do it in? I'm tired of hearing it.

    There are quality welders made in China, but they don't give them away.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    For $5 more, you can get a can of spray paint and make it purple, red, yellow or blue.

    Some years back, I bought a Lincoln SP-175 Plus for about $750. Good welder, but $120 bucks more for a multi-process inverter these days is a fair deal.
    I bought the 141i for almost the same price a couple years ago......

    Lol I did put a "miller" logo on a hf Flux core welder once, and gave it to my friend as a gift......

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Does anyone sell "Yugo" stickers?
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Nah,

    I'll stick around, at least until honest solicited feedback, opinions, and preferences aren't so often mischaracterized as "shilling" by those preaching the Gospel of Miller and Lincoln, and also maybe when the whining about the "low-buck Made-in-China welders" comes down some too.

    Of course, if that ever does happen, things here wouldn't be quite as fun for me somehow, I'm guessing.

    Otherwise, Oldendum, if you're getting so tired, maybe you need a rest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    If you really want to keep shilling Everlast and other low-buck Made-in-China welders, why don't you find another forum to do it in? I'm tired of hearing it.

    There are quality welders made in China, but they don't give them away.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Sorry about the duplicate post, the website was hanging.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    C. Livingstone,

    I am not tired, I am tired of you and your tirades. Are you old enough to know the meaning of the word "tirades"? If not, the current buzz speak is "STFU".
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Livingstone View Post
    Nah,

    I'll stick around, at least until honest solicited feedback, opinions, and preferences aren't so often mischaracterized as "shilling" by those preaching the Gospel of Miller and Lincoln, and also maybe when the whining about the "low-buck Made-in-China welders" comes down some too.

    Of course, if that ever does happen, things here wouldn't be quite as fun for me somehow, I'm guessing.

    Otherwise, Oldendum, if you're getting so tired, maybe you need a rest?
    I see a Instagator penalty coming soon.
    Very soon. You are like the player that can't keep his mouth shut and then plays Mr. Innocent.

    I am well rehearsed in calling penalties.
    Last warning.

    ...zap!


    I am not completely insane..
    Some parts are missing

    Professional Driver on a closed course....
    Do not attempt.

    Just because I'm a dumbass don't mean that you can be too.
    So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.

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    Thanks, Zap. I try to contribute here in an inoffensive way.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    The Officials are conferring at center ice right now...


    ...zap!


    I am not completely insane..
    Some parts are missing

    Professional Driver on a closed course....
    Do not attempt.

    Just because I'm a dumbass don't mean that you can be too.
    So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.

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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post

    Lol I did put a "miller" logo on a hf Flux core welder once, and gave it to my friend as a gift......
    That is so wrong on so many levels LOL.
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    Re: Anything better than a Lincoln Electric 210 MP for the Price?

    I have a mp210. Bought it last year for $1199. I really like it. I thought it was a good deal and came with a 3 year warranty. Zap even used it to MIG up his plow mounts


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    All my Lincoln-os es hecho en Mejico ! Viva Mejico !
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    Algun persona no le gusta nada que tenga que ver con Mexico..........

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    I like the beautiful women that come from Mexico.
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