ReplyPerhaps he will get better. Be thankful for the help and gently show him how you want it. If that is all you need him for the cut long and have him grind back.
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I need to make these 6x6 tube frames, like a door frame going into the ground, 45° corners fairly straightforward. So I hired a guy, I wanted him to work on the frames while I did other work, I figured it'd save me time, but here's how his cuts were coming out.
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I had to spend so much time fixing grinding and cutting to get the joints to fit up properly.... He said he had experience with plasma cutters, I don't think he did, he was long arcing it so much it kept tripping the breaker, then he used cutoff wheels to make the rest of the cuts...
I don't think I'm being too demanding, a straight line is a straight line, and none of those cuts were straight,
And then I set up a test joint for him to weld with the MIG, 16ga square tubing, simple 90 degree joint, and he failed,
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Maybe next time I try to hire someone I should just have them set up the MIG and weld a couple joints without any input from me and see how they do
Last edited by MetalMan23; 06-13-2018 at 10:32 AM.
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Perhaps he will get better. Be thankful for the help and gently show him how you want it. If that is all you need him for the cut long and have him grind back.
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Maybe I was displeased because he made it seem like he had a lot of experience, I didn't want to let him try to weld it together. He kept saying he wanted to use 1/4" 7018 on 1/4 wall tubingOriginally Posted by tapwelder
Perhaps I should try to be more patient.
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If you were closer I would work for you.....
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A 45 minute drive is nothing....... Although it's probably more than that if there's traffic
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You didn't conduct In Service training, did you?
Did you rely on his Certs?
He did do a nice job of laying the pliers on the table.
Maybe you should grade on a curve.
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I hope he is trainable. At least now you know, he knows nothing. Show him the metalman way. I hope he's a positive contributed to your business for a long time.
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Typical for employees
I found I had watch them every minute or cost me more money.
If go some where they got day off save me money
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PS
If train the first on second retraining was need too
Dave
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Victor torch
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I don't know if I want to try or not. I suppose I could give it a shot and see what happensI was hoping to avoid having to babysit someoneI know right? And that's after 10 minutes of grinding,
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I did too it just cost me money not to babysit.
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HF 4x6 band saw
South Bend 9N
Mill
B&D mag drill
Victor torch
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Hire an illegal. Get a Nicaraguan if possible. Coco can cut that with no mark, by eye.
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This and a drag tip. Notice the lip is trimmed. That's to clear the plasma head.
Why aren't you bandsawing anyway?
My name's not Jim....
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So even using cutoff wheels he couldn't cut the line....maybe he needs glasses?
EDIT: or was he already taking some sort of 'eye' medication...
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Looks good!! Tack it!!
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Thats a good idea with the speed square, it's not easy to move these things around the shop, I should try to set up the bandsaw for the rest of the cuts
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If you don't treat him right, and give him a raise by end of week, his mommie will be at the shop showing you what for. She don't take no s#!t when she's protecting her boy either.
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Hes an older guy probably 50,
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^^ That means his mom is only 65-70.... she could still put some hurt on ya'
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Haha,^^ That means his mom is only 65-70.... she could still put some hurt on ya'
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How much are you paying this guy? I'll send my 16 year old son to work for you during the summer for minimum wage. He's got no practical skills, but he is a big strapping boy (6'1" ~200lbs), is highly intelligent and a quick study. Just a thought.
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I told him 25-40 based on experience, the work that he's done for me already has ended up costing me money.
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Well I don't think my boy could do any worse of a job 😁
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Oh no he’s not worthy of the pay from the three pics you posted. How do you get along with him, is he a know it all that claims to be better than he is or is he an easy going good listener that is capable of learning?
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What is his title? Is it an skilled labor agency hire? What else has he done wrong? You are golden if that is the worst.
I guarantee a capable 16 year old could do worst with a bandsaw, even. Not out of the realm of possibility that he sit on your band saw to make it decend faster(experience) They are ignorant and creatively destructive. And easily bored. And some extremely slow at tasks trying to do it right. That will coat you money.
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