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    Re: Stainless Eagle Project

    Online "classifieds style" selling is huge here (southern california), facebook marketplace, offerup (an android app), craigslist, instagram (not really a marketplace but people still use it as such), etsy, and ebay are the big ones but it depends on location. On really artistic stuff like this one tip is to put a watermark over every picture so no one/company steals your work or uses it as a false resume/cv on someone unsuspecting. Even if your piece doesn't sell it's great advertising to show your quality of work and let people know you do custom work/orders.

    I could see you getting a very nice price for your pieces if so inclined. Of course it depends on your location and luck, but when you love doing it and would be doing it for free any financial return is just the icing on the cake. Also it helps to feed your habit so to say, any "profit" I make from side jobs I try to put back in my little home shop as I build it up - I see it as a bit of an investment in that sense but like you I genuinely enjoy it.

    With your back injury do you use a Shop crane of some sort? A few things that help me greatly with the heavy/awkward stuff are a shop crane with chain hoist and load leveler, and a hydraulic lift table on wheels. I also use a hand cranked small boat winch (sometimes ratchet straps or come-a-long) with a strap style lead to drag heavy things around or up inclines. The boat winch is fast, cheap, convenient, and light. All of those can be purchased cheaply from harbor freight in the united states.

    Oh yes, the materials cost gets crazy fast, especially for stainless, and again it's all about location. Luckily material, gas, etc are pretty widely available and hence costs are fairly competitive where I live, but even at that it's an expensive game to get into. That's not even counting your time and accumulated skill, under quoting is all too common when starting out, and still bites many pros every now and again.

    Also, those aformentioned online selling places are also great places to buy equipment and sometimes consumables. You can get some great deals and make some connections too.
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    WOW.....that is really lawesome.....you are truly blessed with artistic talent

    I envy people who have a vision and the artistic talent to turn it into something beautiful.....myself, no artistic talent at all.....heck, I can't even draw a stick man and get the arms and legs the same length....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlues View Post
    Online "classifieds style" selling is huge here (southern california), facebook marketplace, offerup (an android app), craigslist, instagram (not really a marketplace but people still use it as such), etsy, and ebay are the big ones but it depends on location. On really artistic stuff like this one tip is to put a watermark over every picture so no one/company steals your work or uses it as a false resume/cv on someone unsuspecting. Even if your piece doesn't sell it's great advertising to show your quality of work and let people know you do custom work/orders.

    I could see you getting a very nice price for your pieces if so inclined. Of course it depends on your location and luck, but when you love doing it and would be doing it for free any financial return is just the icing on the cake. Also it helps to feed your habit so to say, any "profit" I make from side jobs I try to put back in my little home shop as I build it up - I see it as a bit of an investment in that sense but like you I genuinely enjoy it.

    With your back injury do you use a Shop crane of some sort? A few things that help me greatly with the heavy/awkward stuff are a shop crane with chain hoist and load leveler, and a hydraulic lift table on wheels. I also use a hand cranked small boat winch (sometimes ratchet straps or come-a-long) with a strap style lead to drag heavy things around or up inclines. The boat winch is fast, cheap, convenient, and light. All of those can be purchased cheaply from harbor freight in the united states.

    Oh yes, the materials cost gets crazy fast, especially for stainless, and again it's all about location. Luckily material, gas, etc are pretty widely available and hence costs are fairly competitive where I live, but even at that it's an expensive game to get into. That's not even counting your time and accumulated skill, under quoting is all too common when starting out, and still bites many pros every now and again.

    Also, those aformentioned online selling places are also great places to buy equipment and sometimes consumables. You can get some great deals and make some connections too.
    Thanks for these tips SlowBlues, I really need to look in to this! I'm located far up in Sweden above the polar circle, think at the same meridian as Alaska and youre pretty much got it, and theres not much of competition between the stores here so you get the picture I think my friend?
    I dont have a shop so it is hard to set up helpful things, I mostly work out of the trunk of my rusty old car providing I can borrow an extension cord at somebodys driveway. Some occations I had a garage for an evening. Final assembly happens at my parents when they are in a reaaal good mood and let me in
    (They know I bite down if they let me in so I guess I got myself to blame, haha)
    These are really helpful tips, I will check these out! Thanks again mate, really appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rangerhgm View Post
    WOW.....that is really lawesome.....you are truly blessed with artistic talent

    I envy people who have a vision and the artistic talent to turn it into something beautiful.....myself, no artistic talent at all.....heck, I can't even draw a stick man and get the arms and legs the same length....
    Thanks mate, but honestly youre being way to kind. I know you guys here are pros as where I am an uneducated swedish barbarian behind the welder. Don't undersell yourself mate! Thanks for the awesome feedback, I really appreciate it!

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    Even more amazing work considering the conditions! After getting your work out there you'll be surprised at some of the connections you can make, especially if you're a likeable person. You might get lucky and find a more reliable space to work.

    I would also show some pieces to places that sell material of all sort (metal, gravel, construction, etc though not sure how prevalent they are there). They LOVE to have something interesting and beautiful like that in front of their offices or on their counter depending on the size.

    If I were in your situation I would try to get together a small mobile setup in a trailer. Complete with a small flip out weld table and vise. You do need a way to tow it but it really speeds/cleans things up when you're working from different spaces. Trailers and generators here are often purchased and then never used - makes it easy to get a deal on them (in trade or cash).

    If you haven't you should also look into trading pieces for tools/material.

    Just a few thoughts and some things that have worked for me in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlues View Post
    Even more amazing work considering the conditions! After getting your work out there you'll be surprised at some of the connections you can make, especially if you're a likeable person. You might get lucky and find a more reliable space to work.

    I would also show some pieces to places that sell material of all sort (metal, gravel, construction, etc though not sure how prevalent they are there). They LOVE to have something interesting and beautiful like that in front of their offices or on their counter depending on the size.

    If I were in your situation I would try to get together a small mobile setup in a trailer. Complete with a small flip out weld table and vise. You do need a way to tow it but it really speeds/cleans things up when you're working from different spaces. Trailers and generators here are often purchased and then never used - makes it easy to get a deal on them (in trade or cash).

    If you haven't you should also look into trading pieces for tools/material.

    Just a few thoughts and some things that have worked for me in the past
    You sure put a lot of thoughts in my puny noggin mate! *thinking so hard my neighbours hear a sound like creeking wood*

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    That is some really nice work you done there. That work takes an enormous amount of imagination vision talent and patience and it pretty obvious to me that you have a whole lot of all 4 qualities. I read somewhere a long time ago most of the old artists we were taught about in school (think Davinci, VanGogh, Picasso and those types) actually weren't trying to be artists, what they did was a hobby they fell into. In any case you got somethin goin on there that with some creative busness thinking you could make a doggone good living doin this work. As far as underestimating the cost, that happens a lot and only comes with experience, I run into that problem a lot with my work, and fortunately for me all they want is the thing Im workin on fixed and fixed to stay together a long time.


    My "artisitic" ability is fixing a busted bulldozer or front end loader or dragline bucket some ol boy destroyed in a coal mine. It takes a bit of imagination and thinking to come up with an idea to idiot proof and operator proof some of this stuff I work on, most of it really isn't the operators fault it just that most of it was wore out 45 years ago and I get to put it all back together.

    Best wishes, good luck and have fun

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    Thanks for sharing your amazing work. This artwork isn't as easy as many think. I only do small pieces and getting them in the correct perspective, size, and appealing appearance is definitely not easy. I play with silverware art and one day I'll attempt a larger sculpture. Sadly people can be a pain to deal with and sometimes try to get a $15 or $20 piece for less. Then you tell someone , it's a $100.00 and they say that's cheap ! You can't win.
    Personal enjoyment and satisfaction is great but you gotta get a few dollars.

    Have you considered maybe getting a enclosed trailer for storage of your tools and equipment ? Provided your car can pull one safely. That would definitely make it easier.
    You could make up a portable vise too. A upright tube with receiver type hitch would work. You can utilize the receiver for a grinder too and many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye an old miner View Post
    That is some really nice work you done there. That work takes an enormous amount of imagination vision talent and patience and it pretty obvious to me that you have a whole lot of all 4 qualities. I read somewhere a long time ago most of the old artists we were taught about in school (think Davinci, VanGogh, Picasso and those types) actually weren't trying to be artists, what they did was a hobby they fell into. In any case you got somethin goin on there that with some creative busness thinking you could make a doggone good living doin this work. As far as underestimating the cost, that happens a lot and only comes with experience, I run into that problem a lot with my work, and fortunately for me all they want is the thing Im workin on fixed and fixed to stay together a long time.


    My "artisitic" ability is fixing a busted bulldozer or front end loader or dragline bucket some ol boy destroyed in a coal mine. It takes a bit of imagination and thinking to come up with an idea to idiot proof and operator proof some of this stuff I work on, most of it really isn't the operators fault it just that most of it was wore out 45 years ago and I get to put it all back together.

    Best wishes, good luck and have fun
    I often wish I had a little more of that technical skills you possess, theres very often old stuff that I wish I could fix up. Pherhaps even build some tools I heard of but never seen in real life
    (English Wheel, Planishing Hammer and such "mythological" stuff you know)
    Oh man I hope you are right and that I can make a living on this one day... sooner would be better
    Thanks for your very kind feedback and thoughts mate, really appreciate them!

    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    Thanks for sharing your amazing work. This artwork isn't as easy as many think. I only do small pieces and getting them in the correct perspective, size, and appealing appearance is definitely not easy. I play with silverware art and one day I'll attempt a larger sculpture. Sadly people can be a pain to deal with and sometimes try to get a $15 or $20 piece for less. Then you tell someone , it's a $100.00 and they say that's cheap ! You can't win.
    Personal enjoyment and satisfaction is great but you gotta get a few dollars.

    Have you considered maybe getting a enclosed trailer for storage of your tools and equipment ? Provided your car can pull one safely. That would definitely make it easier.
    You could make up a portable vise too. A upright tube with receiver type hitch would work. You can utilize the receiver for a grinder too and many others.
    Her's some of my others. I set the beers there for a member here, WELDERMIKE . That beer is not mine !!!!
    Oh I could use a beer right now mate so no worries *tryin to beat WelderMike there* haha
    Thanks for your awesome feedback and ideas, if I one of these days have some cash changing direction (to the inbox) I will certainly look in to fixing a better or at least more permanent setup.
    It would save so very, very, much time and strength. So much time goes in to finding somewhere to be, then much time is setting up and taking down and cleaning up and make sure everything looks perfect. (If you wish to be welcome again)
    This is the most overwhelming part to me due to handicap, and it would be a dream to have helpful things in place instead of relying on help every time anything needs lifting/moving, so your ideas are very sound ideas indeed!
    I like the pictures of your vice's, one day I hope to find a good vice at the scrapyard and refurbish it. (Well if I strike gold I'd maybe go crazy and get a brand new one)
    Right now I have a vise setup on a square tube welded to a rim, and some tube holders for hammers. Everything came from the scrapyard from tubing/rim/vise to hammers, but the hammers and especially vise could be in better condition.
    (Jumps cogs when I try to tighten it)
    Your idea with wheels and handles on that picture are awesome! I wondered what the best way to put some wheels on this could be and when I see it I'm pretty sure you found the optimal solution!
    Do you have any pics to share on your silverware art? I would really really like to see your art mate!
    Thanks for the high praise, I really appreciate it!

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