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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerlands View Post
    Just as an update to this thread... the roller I ordered from China/Taiwan June 4th arrived in the U.S. and was accepted June 10th... It's currently in the hands of USPS moving along it's route about 80 miles away.
    I just ordered one up yesterday - expected mid August. Fingers crossed.
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    Re: Welding Aluminum with MIG-205DS

    I tried the 0.035" ER4043 wire using a 0.040" tip with encouraging results. The only setting that allows enough voltage range is the MAG 0.023" wire setting. I think the wire feed is a little fast for the amperage. I started with the setting recommended for Hobart Maxal 4043 0.035" wire of 130 amps and 24 volts for 1/8" thick material and played around from there. They recommend a wire feed sped of 400 ipm at those settings. I used voltage to keep in the appropriate range of spray transfer.
    I could probably join a couple pieces of aluminum together if I had to but I need to do some more practice and refinement. I think I'm at the current limit of my skills. I'll probably focus on welding steel until I get more experience.

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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by California View Post
    I ordered a knurled drive roller July 1 and it arrived last evening (July 13). I've learned a couple of things:

    SpeedPAK shipping is an affiliate of Ebay. Choose the vendor who uses them! Their tracking reports are real, not made-up. They apparently fill an air transport pod and send one over, every couple of days. In contrast my experience with 'Economy shipping' has been poor.

    Ebay seller chnsalescom seems to specialize in welding accessories and actually stocks what they sell. I see they have 100% positive feedback which is rare among China vendors.

    That is in contrast to many other sellers, who drop-ship, ie accept your order then have the real vendor send it to you. If your industrial stuff is listed among womens clothing and doo-dads that's probably a drop-shipper. Reading the seller's feedback to see what else he's selling can be a clue to whether he understands the product.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    I just ordered one up yesterday - expected mid August. Fingers crossed.
    There are some decent Chinese vendors out there if you can find them...

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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Followup - I tried out the new knurled drive roller for flux core yesterday and its day/night better than what was in the welder. Prior owner had modded this Harbor Freight MIG-180 as a hobby project. It was immaculate and appeared never-used. A big capacitor mounted external, a longer stinger, and a relay to power the drive motor instead of its current going through the motherboard. Then after he moved up to a better welder he sold this one to me - $25! But it didn't feed smoothly when I bought it. I suspect that was his reason for adding the relay feeding the drive motor.

    I don't know if the feed roller in it was a useless one from some other project, or it was the original. (.023 + .030 and slightly knurled, while I thought .030 + .035 was the original spec). This new knurled .030 + .035 roller feeds flux core flawlessly with very little pressure compressing the wire against the roller. I think distorted wire explained the previous erratic feeding. Problem solved for $5.
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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Would you happen to know if you can set the amperage below 80 on Gasless? I'm unable to, and am having to play with voltage it seems to adjust anything. I'm new to MIG and just learning this machine with still have a way to go but I have a lot of spatter and understand that has to do with the arc distance which seems to be controlled by wire speed which, with the yeswelder, seems to be controlled by the amperage?... I'm welding 16 gauge steel tubing using Blue Demon E71TGS .030 with still a way to experiment but it seems voltage is my only means of heat control at the lower settings?
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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerlands View Post
    Would you happen to know if you can set the amperage below 80 on Gasless? I'm unable to, and am having to play with voltage it seems to adjust anything. I'm new to MIG and just learning this machine with still have a way to go but I have a lot of spatter and understand that has to do with the arc distance which seems to be controlled by wire speed which, with the yeswelder, seems to be controlled by the amperage?... I'm welding 16 gauge steel tubing using Blue Demon E71TGS .030 with still a way to experiment but it seems voltage is my only means of heat control at the lower settings?
    My 205DS doesn't go below 80 amps on gasless either. The wire feed speed is directly tied to amperage for a specific setting (as far as I can tell) and you can't control them independently. That is the problem with the synergic settings. Similar to what I was doing for aluminum, you could try to find a setting for the combination of wire feed speed and amperage that would suit your need and tell the machine that you are using that wire diameter and gas. I don't think it will matter that you aren't actually using gas. I added a graph (all settings graphed) that combines all 6 combinations of wire feed speeds and amperages to the spreadsheet in the link below:
    https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...sk?usp=sharing

    Looking at the recommended settings from Yeswelder, the wire feed speed for 0.035" gasless wire is 5 m/min (197 ipm) at 80 amps. From the graph, that is very close to what you get when using the 0.035" MAG setting. Since you are using 0.030" flux wire I'd set the machine to the 0.030" MAG setting and start from there with what you think the amperage and voltage should be.

    I sent Yeswelder a suggestion that they have a setting that allows independent control of wire feed speed if they make an updated version of the MIG-205DS. I also suggested that a synergic setting for aluminum would be more useful than the CO2 synergic setting (Does anyone use CO2 with this welder?).
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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Also, the only wire diameter option for the gasless setting is 0.035". So the 0.030 flux core wire is probably being fed too slow for the amperage.
    Do you have some 0.035 flux core wire to try? According to the Yeswelder settings you should be able to use 0.035 flux core wire on 16 gauge metal.

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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    I'll try playing with gasless on gas settings and see if I can do that... seems like a good idea anyway unless there's some kind of pressure switch. Right now I'm set at 80 amps and 17.1 or so volts. I'm able to get the penetration and weld profile I'm looking for but it's too hot to run a bead. If I run lower volts the weld tends to become to high and rounded so what I'm doing is "stitching" the weld across, 5 seconds on - couple seconds off, and that is doing the job. I've never used MIG/MAG but I can see how the gas would provide cooling so there can be less stickout. I could pick up .035" wire and may do that but I think the idea of using MAG settings I'll try first. And, was there a reason for choosing MAG over MIG?
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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerlands View Post
    And, was there a reason for choosing MAG over MIG?
    You're using 0.030" flux core but there is only a setting for 0.035" gasless so your wire is likely feeding too slow for the associated amperage. Per the chart provided by Yeswelder, the wire feed speed for 0.035" gasless wire is 5 m/min (197 ipm) at 80 amps. From the graph in the spreadsheet, that is very close to what you get when using the 0.035" MAG setting. That implies that the synergic settings for MAG and Gasless are similar so if you're using 0.030 flux core wire then the 0.030 MAG setting would be a good starting point.
    This assumes that the values in the chart provided by Yeswelder are correct.
    If you know what amperage, wire feed speed, and voltage you want to use go to the graph in the spreadsheet to pick a wire feed speed and amperage that is close. Then see if that setting will allow you to choose a voltage offset that is in range of what you are looking for.

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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    It worked!... the MAG setting that is for flux core... I would have thought a pressure switch would have prevented running without gas?... anyway... I'm way down to about 50 amps at 16 volts and I am getting good penetration and the bead is laying down fairly nicely... best of all... very little spatter... so thanks for that suggestion cause I don't know if I would ever have headed that way...

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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    I just ordered one up yesterday - expected mid August. Fingers crossed.
    Just got the roller in the mail, little over two weeks isn't bad at all. Except the knob on the tension wheel adjuster broke while I was putting it in...Aaaargh, just sent a note to YesWelder to get a replacement.
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    Re: YESWELDER: Anyone used one of these?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Just got the roller in the mail, little over two weeks isn't bad at all. Except the knob on the tension wheel adjuster broke while I was putting it in...Aaaargh, just sent a note to YesWelder to get a replacement.
    YesWelder's customer service is a crack up. I emailed that I needed the new wire feed tension knob, sent a pic of the part and the SN/receipt. Got pretty quick replies and a shipping confirmation. Arrived yesterday (yes, Sunday) via DHL from Dubai(???) wrapped and packed like it was a Faberge egg lol. There was a hand written apology/thank you note in the package to boot. The machine's kind of a pain/tricky to set up properly (I'm getting there) but can't fault them so far with standing behind it.
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