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    New House - New Garage - Thoughts and Ideas Appreciated

    OK, so it's a used house but new to me. It has a 2 car garage that my "shop" half shares with the missus car. I'm a part time hobbyist at best - yard art and the odd repair once in a while. But now that I have a dedicated area to call my own, I'd like to make user friendly instead of setting up and tearing down every time I want to use it.

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    The red tool cart is my welding cart/table/grinding station, etc. The white cabinet was left by the previous owners - it's on wheels and I can roll it out if I want (the nut/bolt stack is attached to the wall - not the table). Tool box is mine and immovable (too damn heavy). The wooden upper shelves and peg wall was left by the previous owner as well.

    I have another metal shelf unit that has most of my hand tools (grinders, saws, etc) so they're pretty squared away.

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    I'm thinking of making this my primary fabrication/work table by adding a a sheet steel top to it. Nothing crazy thick, but be able to ground to it if needed, able to use magnets to hold stuff, things like that. Dumb idea or is a steel topped work surface for welding useful enough to justify doing it?

    Need to add a closer overhead light and better organize that wooden shelf with the coolers and junk. Maybe put the extension cords in the white cabinet and use that shelf for metal storage.

    Anyways - I'm a noob, wanted to share what I have, and if you have an idea about something, point me to other threads with storage ideas, and whatnot, I'm always appreciative.
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    Looks like you're off to a good start, and with all that Snap-on stuff, you obviously like quality tools.

    What part of AZ are you in? I have a brother in Glendale who is also partial to Snap On tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    Looks like you're off to a good start, and with all that Snap-on stuff, you obviously like quality tools.

    What part of AZ are you in? I have a brother in Glendale who is also partial to Snap On tools.
    Also Glendale, 51st Ave/Cactus. I confess, I was a dealer for 12 years in Safford and Morenci so when a good trade in came in I'd keep it for myself!

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    I would put as many receptacles in as you can so you don't end up running extensions everywhere. That's exactly what I'm going to try to do on a shop/home I'll be building.

    Plan out for your machines and welder(s) and make sure you have the proper receptacles.

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    You can put a piece of 1/8" plate on top of your grey cabinet. Since you will normally not be welding to it, it won't warp. I did something similar and put a sheet on top of my table saw until I could get my real welding table.

    Since your space is at a premium, I would put more shelves or storage space above the pegboard area.

    Can you put up a small shed out back to help de-clutter the work area?If you look in some of the scrap metal thread pics, you can see my shop was very full until I was able to get a storage container.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks View Post
    I would put as many receptacles in as you can so you don't end up running extensions everywhere. That's exactly what I'm going to try to do on a shop/home I'll be building.

    Plan out for your machines and welder(s) and make sure you have the proper receptacles.
    The prior owner did very well with outlets, both over the bench as well as a reel on the ceiling, others just out of site, and a 120V/30A outlet outside the side garage door, also 15A outlets. Since I've been here (1 year), I've had to run (2) 220V lines run from the other side of the house/breaker box, to this side (spa and water heater) - why I didn't think to have them run an extra for me, I'll never know...

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    I hadn't thought about being able to tack to the top until you and one of my customers mentioned it. They both recommended 3/16" at a minimum if I plan to. Heading to the metal supply house to look for a 32" x 72" piece, as well as some 1" square tubing for the chop saw stand - that's this weekends project and am very psyched up for it!

    RE: the shed idea - I put in a 8' x 14' TuffShed on the other side of the house but it's stocked with garden, Xmas, and camping gear. It's organized well and if push comes to shove I can squeeze a little more in it, but for now I'll wait until the garage setup and layout get's closer to what I will keep for a long time.

    Not keen on extending that shelving, I already bash my head into that corner enough! That reminds me, get a pool noodle for padding that sucker

    Cleared the floor, looks so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Also Glendale, 51st Ave/Cactus. I confess, I was a dealer for 12 years in Safford and Morenci so when a good trade in came in I'd keep it for myself!
    Do you know Fred Ferguson? He's a Snap-on dealer in Phoenix an a close friend of my brother's. I think that Fred has been a dealer for 8 years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Also Glendale, 51st Ave/Cactus. I confess, I was a dealer for 12 years in Safford and Morenci so when a good trade in came in I'd keep it for myself!
    I worked in Morenci welding for Brown and Root way back in '86. Pretty cool job, sure was hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    Do you know Fred Ferguson? He's a Snap-on dealer in Phoenix an a close friend of my brother's. I think that Fred has been a dealer for 8 years or so.
    I don't, I left in 2011 so just missed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyTIG View Post
    I worked in Morenci welding for Brown and Root way back in '86. Pretty cool job, sure was hot.
    I now work for a company to survey and keep the conveyors up and running on all the Arizona properties. Lot of fun, I like it a lot.

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    I don't like that table as a working table. You can't scoot under the top, which means that you will likely lean forward and rest your body weight on your arms, which is no bueno for welding. I feel it's best to suspend yourself mostly with your core so you can have more agility. Just something to think about, IMO. Unless you just plan to stand up, but from the looks of that stool, it doesn't look like it.

    Also, you're gonna need a bigger A/C than that little window unit up in the corner. Doubt it will suffice.
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    Well this was worth the price of admission ! Went to a steel supply place I'd never been to - wound up getting a 76" x 36" 13ga steel sheet for $25. I guess it was a cutoff or something. 20' of 1" square tubing for another $20 and I left there a happy camper.

    The original top is 72" x 32" so I trimmed the width, and left a 4" overhang on one side. Man, I'm a happy camper now - looks great and should do all I need it to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I don't like that table as a working table. You can't scoot under the top, which means that you will likely lean forward and rest your body weight on your arms, which is no bueno for welding. I feel it's best to suspend yourself mostly with your core so you can have more agility. Just something to think about, IMO. Unless you just plan to stand up, but from the looks of that stool, it doesn't look like it.

    Also, you're gonna need a bigger A/C than that little window unit up in the corner. Doubt it will suffice.
    Great observations - the stool is just an old drum throne, more for resting than work - I'm looking for a 30" stool to work at the table.

    The front has an 8" overhang so I can cozy up a little if I do get a chair.

    The a/c is one I hung onto from a prior house. I have to get by with the small fan over the bench. Which this time of year in Arizona kind of stinks, especially all geared up. But I've been here 55 years, pretty used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Well this was worth the price of admission ! Went to a steel supply place I'd never been to - wound up getting a 76" x 36" 13ga steel sheet for $25. I guess it was a cutoff or something. 20' of 1" square tubing for another $20 and I left there a happy camper.

    The original top is 72" x 32" so I trimmed the width, and left a 4" overhang on one side. Man, I'm a happy camper now - looks great and should do all I need it to do.
    Congrats on finding a piece like that. This kind of goes to show that when you go to a metal supplier you can look for drops that might be a bit different in size from what you need. A quick trim of the piece or change of design and you can be on your way potentially cheaper than you originally planned. Plus if you keep coming back, you can develop a decent relationship with them and get good deals. If you pay cash, you can also sometimes get better pricing.
    Don't overlook talking to welding or machinist shops. They sometimes have piles of scrap or drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Also Glendale, 51st Ave/Cactus. I confess, I was a dealer for 12 years in Safford and Morenci so when a good trade in came in I'd keep it for myself!
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    It looks like great shop.
    In some homes your may need more power. If do a 60 amp sub panel will do great for all needs.
    I put a sub panel for the kitchen and used parts for the garage.
    In my garage I put insulation in for summer and winter. It also cut down any sounds you make .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    OK, so it's a used house but new to me. It has a 2 car garage that my "shop" half shares with the missus car. I'm a part time hobbyist at best - yard art and the odd repair once in a while. But now that I have a dedicated area to call my own, I'd like to make user friendly instead of setting up and tearing down every time I want to use it.

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    The red tool cart is my welding cart/table/grinding station, etc. The white cabinet was left by the previous owners - it's on wheels and I can roll it out if I want (the nut/bolt stack is attached to the wall - not the table). Tool box is mine and immovable (too damn heavy). The wooden upper shelves and peg wall was left by the previous owner as well.

    I have another metal shelf unit that has most of my hand tools (grinders, saws, etc) so they're pretty squared away.

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    I'm thinking of making this my primary fabrication/work table by adding a a sheet steel top to it. Nothing crazy thick, but be able to ground to it if needed, able to use magnets to hold stuff, things like that. Dumb idea or is a steel topped work surface for welding useful enough to justify doing it?

    Need to add a closer overhead light and better organize that wooden shelf with the coolers and junk. Maybe put the extension cords in the white cabinet and use that shelf for metal storage.

    Anyways - I'm a noob, wanted to share what I have, and if you have an idea about something, point me to other threads with storage ideas, and whatnot, I'm always appreciative.
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    I finished up my third attempt to make a chop saw stand for my portaband saw. Version 1 was horrible - springy hinges and dodgy mounting:
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    Version 2 was better, but still had play in the hinge and never could get the saw to stay still with the mounting I was trying:
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    Then I joined this forum, and by chance of a different post - another member shared pics and drawings of one he built so I could try to make one myself.

    Started by welding the frame together out of 1" square tube (twice, as my first attempt led to rushing and the resulting rectangles were all sort of racked and warped...)
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    This time I made the hinge out of 7/16" all thread and rod connector nuts - finally - no slop in the hinge system!
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    To mount the saw, I needed to drill two holes in the bottom, and I used longer bolts on the from existing housing to secure the front:
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    The mount tabs were my biggest F'up... Since I really didn't know what I was doing and eyeballed everything - in the end the blade was out of plumb and not straight.

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    I took a break, had a cigar, a Guinness, and a good nights sleep and figured out a work around for now (until I get the urge to try for verion #4).

    This morning I figured out how much to incline the vise, welded it all down, and packed a bunch of JB Weld putty in like bondo to camouflage as much as possible the results
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    Ground and sanded the entire frame and put a coat of industrial gray on it to finish it up.
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    The real bonus is when the saw is upright, I can bolt a horizontal table to it for a small vertical band saw!

    And the results-cuts like buttah!!!


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    Why yes, I did reorganize my peg wall

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    My OCD is having a good day lol...

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    how do ya cut miters? vice or saw needa pivot.. just wanted to toss a MAC wrench at your OCD from Tucson
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsoon-mech View Post
    how do ya cut miters? vice or saw needa pivot.. just wanted to toss a MAC wrench at your OCD from Tucson
    That's OK, it woulda just broke when it hit my SnapOn box

    For the miters I just clamped the tube in a vise and free handed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    For the miters I just clamped the tube in a vise and free handed them.
    if ya get a piece of plate that your vice can be bolted to, start with a plate large enough that you can cut a 90 degree arc, center bolt the plate, setup an anchor under the arc that you can thread a 3/8" bolt into in order to lock the plate.. now ya have a 45* right/left miter, if ya set it up so your center bolt is anchored in a slot rather than a fixed hole then ya can move the vice forward or rearward...

    As far as Snap on... got several boxes but... I do have a set of MAC combination wrenches 1/4" to 1 1/4" its in a snapon box in onea the service trucks.... think theres some Cornwell in that same box as well.. its the truck we make the newdies use till they prove themselves worthy of onea the mobile shop trailers

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