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    Against many's advice I did buy a Yeswelder mig/tig/stick welder.

    I wanted to do a "Noob" review on it and have a running commentary on pluses and minuses, Q&A, etc.

    I promise not to take offense at the comments lol, and I assure you I'm not a spammer or yeswelder compensated.

    If this idea is OK, where would you recommend putting a thread like this? Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Against many's advice I did buy a Yeswelder mig/tig/stick welder.
    Sweet, a person to defy the odds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    I wanted to do a "Noob" review on it and have a running commentary on pluses and minuses, Q&A, etc.

    I promise not to take offense at the comments lol, and I assure you I'm not a spammer or yeswelder compensated.

    If this idea is OK, where would you recommend putting a thread like this? Thx
    I won't discourage you from the idea, but will discourage you from doing so if you're a "Noob" yourself. The one thing I detest is when people offer reviews and/or show how to do something when it's the first time they're doing it themselves. I like to use wranglerstar on YT as an example of such a baffoon.

    Maybe a good place would be in the Manufacturers Product Forums->Other Manufacturers forum, where the Yeswelder thread currently resides? In fact, why not just add your review to that thread, or doesn't that seem like a good place for you to review it? I don't know, I'm asking, you might have some earth breaking news to disclose to the welding world, so it might warrant a new thread. Not meaning to be offensive, so hope you don't take it that way...just asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks View Post
    Sweet, a person to defy the odds.



    I won't discourage you from the idea, but will discourage you from doing so if you're a "Noob" yourself. The one thing I detest is when people offer reviews and/or show how to do something when it's the first time they're doing it themselves. I like to use wranglerstar on YT as an example of such a baffoon.

    Maybe a good place would be in the Manufacturers Product Forums->Other Manufacturers forum, where the Yeswelder thread currently resides? In fact, why not just add your review to that thread, or doesn't that seem like a good place for you to review it? I don't know, I'm asking, you might have some earth breaking news to disclose to the welding world, so it might warrant a new thread. Not meaning to be offensive, so hope you don't take it that way...just asking.
    That's me, the rabblerowser!

    I just want to be sure I'm not breaking or abusing forum rules. I didn't want to hijack the existing Yeswelder thread with a bunch of yammering from an amateur trying to learn the skill with a virtually unknown box. I sure won't be coming across as any kind of authority! I joined the forum recently to learn, ask questions, share projects (I am really into my yard art projects lately) and I search around looking for threads by other unskilled members to see what their experiences are. I'll probably just keep it in the existing thread - the OP seems to welcome any and all info about experiences with this brand.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post

    I promise not to take offense at the comments lol,
    I'll take that challenge.....

    You have NO Business offering a review on a welding machine for the simple fact that you Do NOT know how to weld properly.
    The examples of your welding is horrible. Sorry if that ruffles your panties, but thats the truth.

    You need to shut off the computer and spend some alone time with your new machine and practice.
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    Did you buy from Amazon ? They have a 10% coupon. What about their yeswelder hood ? Did you get the 4 year home improvement protection plan ?


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    I agree with JT above, I may have said it in a ............different way mind you :-). He does have a point, the old saying, "you don't know what you don't know' sorta rings true here. I mean no disrespect by my comments.............Mike

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    While you are waiting for the new welder to arrive you can still practice with the machine you have.
    Get a piece of steel that is somewhat within the limits of your machine.
    Grind all mill scale from the practice piece.
    Start laying or padding beads. Watch Jody and a few others on how to do this.
    The first pic is typically what new people do when they practice. That is not stacking beads. Plus it is on a saw blade.
    The second pic is what stacking beads or running stringers should look like.

    Once you get the new machine, start the whole process over again.

    When you ask for advice, show a pic of the weld plus the exact settings for wire, volts, amps, type of gas, flow rate, stick out or contact tip to work distance, etc.

    I still make it a point to stack beds or practice since I dont weld every day. I also do a practice run on similar material before I do a real important project.


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    Re: Welder Review and Running Comments - Where Best to Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    I sure won't be coming across as any kind of authority!
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    OMG, are these your welds Shootr? Those look like Fido's Butt, to quote Jody Collier.

    This is exactly why you don't want to be telling people how to do something the first time you do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by psacustomcreations View Post
    While you are waiting for the new welder to arrive you can still practice with the machine you have.
    And now the plot thickens...how can someone post a review if they don't even have the machine yet? WTF is going on here? Is this thread for real?

    You don't have a GMC dump truck and a backhoe, do you? I see you're in AZ...

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    I think hes asking for some point in the future.
    That said as a newbie myself, about the only thing Id feel qualified to review would be the packaging.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR8 View Post
    I think he’s asking for some point in the future.
    Maybe so, but I see yet another ambitious person wanting to share with the world as they actually learn to do something. I guess nothing wrong with that if that is what one likes. That's not the type of people I personally want to follow, as I stated above.

    I'm certainly no expert and this is giving me some thought on what I should spend my time on and I think I should spend more time out welding than spending time on an online forum discussing it, so I'm going to try and do just that and focus more on the projects I have and better myself. Even if it's padding beads for an extra hour a day, at the end of a month I will be that much better. I don't feel I need to share that with people, most could care less what I'm welding, be it a welding cart, a driveway gate, etc...even padding beads...

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR8 View Post
    That said as a newbie myself, about the only thing I’d feel qualified to review would be the packaging.
    Maybe you should do an unboxing video? Yet something else I detest, I see a lot of people doing unboxing videos where they don't even use the tool they unbox. I don't think I have ever done a video like that myself. I have done some where I test a tool out when I first get it, but never an unboxing video. And not to discourage you from doing such, if you like those types of videos I would encourage you to do them yourself if that gives you some satisfaction.

    That goes for Shootr also, if creating content showing and reviewing a product he's learning about makes him satisfied, I'm not to say what he should do.

    That said, I think I'm gonna to go out and sharpen some tungsten and see if I can contaminate them. Maybe I should do a video on contaminating tungsten? That is something I would consider myself an expert at!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks View Post
    Maybe so, but I see yet another ambitious person wanting to share with the world as they actually learn to do something. I guess nothing wrong with that if that is what one likes. That's not the type of people I personally want to follow, as I stated above.

    I'm certainly no expert and this is giving me some thought on what I should spend my time on and I think I should spend more time out welding than spending time on an online forum discussing it, so I'm going to try and do just that and focus more on the projects I have and better myself. Even if it's padding beads for an extra hour a day, at the end of a month I will be that much better. I don't feel I need to share that with people, most could care less what I'm welding, be it a welding cart, a driveway gate, etc...even padding beads...



    Maybe you should do an unboxing video? Yet something else I detest, I see a lot of people doing unboxing videos where they don't even use the tool they unbox. I don't think I have ever done a video like that myself. I have done some where I test a tool out when I first get it, but never an unboxing video. And not to discourage you from doing such, if you like those types of videos I would encourage you to do them yourself if that gives you some satisfaction.

    That goes for Shootr also, if creating content showing and reviewing a product he's learning about makes him satisfied, I'm not to say what he should do.

    That said, I think I'm gonna to go out and sharpen some tungsten and see if I can contaminate them. Maybe I should do a video on contaminating tungsten? That is something I would consider myself an expert at!
    I have no desire to shoot video of the crappy work I do.
    Happy to share photos with the only goal to edify myself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks View Post


    Maybe you should do an unboxing video? )
    Yeah, thats always the worst.

    I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I certainly know how to open a f*ckin box.

    most of these utoob guys are blowhards.... talkin it up to lengthen their video time. blah blah blah...

    I really respect guys like Jody and ABomb who get right to the point... and above all, have respectable SKILL.
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    Not a lot of disagreement on my part to most of the posts - the unfortunate thing is it's obvious I torqued a few of the regulars in the other thread and they're so blinded by petty keyboard frustration that they aren't able to read what I wrote in my first two posts, or at least comprehend the simple words. That's why the ignore function on a forum is such a beautiful tool.

    So as I sit in my spa with my cigar and my Guinness, concerned only for the aneurysms I seem to be causing the weak-minded, I'll try to clarify what 90% didn't read the first time...

    *The only question I originally asked was where to put a post/thread like this.
    *"Noob review" meant an unskilled beginner with a new toy commenting on the experience.
    *Do not know why it was assumed video was involved - maybe the "ongoing commentary" part - that meant multiple posts and pics, hence why I asked if it sounded like I would be hijacking an existing thread by doing so.
    *I'm not sure how else to put it - I tried "noob", "amateur", "trying to learn", but the dearth of imbeciles replying in this thread are clearly incapable of grasping those meanings.
    *Where, where WHERE do you keep getting the opinion that I intended to tell others how to do something? Copy/Paste it, because I'm baffled...

    No sh!t, go back and re-read the first two posts I did in this thread. It would have taken a fu@kload less time than hammering away on your keyboard !

    The welder should be here Monday - I look forward to entertaining all who don't understand the scroll function soon afterwards! Slainte!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks View Post
    Maybe so, but I see yet another ambitious person wanting to share with the world as they actually learn to do something. I guess nothing wrong with that if that is what one likes. That's not the type of people I personally want to follow, as I stated above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    Did you buy from Amazon ? They have a 10% coupon. What about their yeswelder hood ? Did you get the 4 year home improvement protection plan ?


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    Exactly, Amazon with the discount, then the 4 year warranty so if/when it craps out I have some recourse. Still under $400 all total. I'm ok with my current hood - it's my eyes that suck.

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    Sweet, I hope you put me on your ignore list, I personally couldn't care if you follow what I say or not. I can restrain from commenting, so I don't put anyone on an ignore list. Ignore lists are for feeble minded people that can't restrain themselves. When I went back and looked at the threads you've created to ask dumb questions it didn't surprise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    *"Noob review" meant an unskilled beginner with a new toy commenting on the experience.


    *I'm not sure how else to put it - I tried "noob", "amateur", "trying to learn", but the dearth of imbeciles replying in this thread are clearly incapable of grasping those meanings.

    Where because I'm baffled!

    But it was only fantasy.
    The wall was too high,
    As you can see.
    No matter how he tried,
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    And the worms ate into his brain


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    That's why the ignore function on a forum is such a beautiful tool!
    BULLSH*T.

    If you really utilized the ignore function you would not be responding in this fashion.

    BUSTED.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks View Post
    Sweet, I hope you put me on your ignore list, I personally couldn't care if you follow what I say or not. I can restrain from commenting, so I don't put anyone on an ignore list. Ignore lists are for feeble minded people that can't restrain themselves. When I went back and looked at the threads you've created to ask dumb questions it didn't surprise me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    BULLSH*T.

    If you really utilized the ignore function you would not be responding in this fashion.

    BUSTED.



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    LoL...

    Im not against you brother...
    you have some cool ideas..

    You just need to slow down and do some learning
    Believe me when you finally get it and you start laying down some really nice looking welds.... you will be like oh yeah thats it .... I got it.

    Chill.

    slinte mhath...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Against many's advice I did buy a Yeswelder mig/tig/stick welder.

    I wanted to do a "Noob" review on it and have a running commentary on pluses and minuses, Q&A, etc.

    I promise not to take offense at the comments lol, and I assure you I'm not a spammer or yeswelder compensated.

    If this idea is OK, where would you recommend putting a thread like this? Thx
    His intentions seem pretty clear to me. Especially since unit would appeal to new user, mostly. Unless the try to power it at 35 amp 120v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psacustomcreations View Post
    While you are waiting for the new welder to arrive you can still practice with the machine you have.
    Get a piece of steel that is somewhat within the limits of your machine.
    Grind all mill scale from the practice piece.
    Start laying or padding beads. Watch Jody and a few others on how to do this.
    The first pic is typically what new people do when they practice. That is not stacking beads. Plus it is on a saw blade.
    The second pic is what stacking beads or running stringers should look like.

    Once you get the new machine, start the whole process over again.

    When you ask for advice, show a pic of the weld plus the exact settings for wire, volts, amps, type of gas, flow rate, stick out or contact tip to work distance, etc.
    Ran about 3lbs of wire this morning - started with Lincoln .030 flux core as it has always seemed very clean trustworthy in my machine anyways (HF 125 FCAW). Since the HF chart is woefully inaccurate, after a couple of horrid passes on HIGH with wire speed = "8" on 1/4" angle iron, I dropped the wire speed down to "4" and everything smoothed right out (except my sense of direction...).
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    (Citric acid works surprisingly well as an etching agent) The beads on the vertical leg seem passable, the ones across the bottom were run at the higher wire speed.

    Some more beads, then screwed with the power and wire speed settings to remind me what the wrong ones feel/sound like.
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    Switched over to a roll of INE .030 when the Lincoln ran out - bought it to try because of all the glowing reviews...Man, this things hasn't sputtered and splatter like this since before I did the DCEN mod on it.

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    Penetration was OK, but man the clean-up after using it will/would be tedious. I tried different wire speeds, stick out lengths, power on hi and low - damned if I know why mine acted like this.
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    Nice work practicing and padding beads. Once you get the new welder you should be able to adjust it better to reduce spatter.

    Using gas will really help to reduce the spatter. There are benefits to either straight CO2 or C25. Whichever you choose, you will still need to dial in the settings for your welder.

    Your practice also showed how the wire seems different depending upon the manufacturer and why it pays to sometimes spend a bit more for a better wire.
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