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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    You could put this into the cracks Name:  7FF69E24-0CA6-46E4-84CF-AA7FF2A0A0B6.jpg
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Bls repair View Post
    You could put this into the cracks Name:  7FF69E24-0CA6-46E4-84CF-AA7FF2A0A0B6.jpg
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    Finally, the CORRECT answer!
    I bet farmersammmmmmmmmmm is laughing his *** off at most of these responses!

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Samm is trying to fix a tractor tire, not build a boat out of a screen door!!! I'm thinking a 5 gal. bucket of epoxy, LOL

    Stay with us Samm, somehow we'll get your tires fixed.

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Bolt a patch in from the inside, with a thinmetal strap holding the tire together on the outside with a carriage bolt facing out, running through a thick rubber boot from the inside to the outside, nuts tightened, welded and studs sticking out trimmed. Seen many done that way.
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Just found a pic of what I am talking about.
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by lugweld View Post
    Just found a pic of what I am talking about.
    Yep, seen a few done that way myself and then if you want to make it purdy shoot some black FlexSeal over it

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Lugweld ,who ever makes those clamps better put on a second shift for that tire

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    wait,this is mainly a welding forum right? why not weld the cracks shut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bls repair View Post
    Lugweld ,who ever makes those clamps better put on a second shift for that tire
    I've seen two foot ruptures stitched up like this. Works fine.
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    For joining belting they are great the widest belts I have on the big sawmill are ~6inches but I use this type of joiners:
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    These would work though as long as the pulleys were big enough diameter:
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by lugweld View Post
    Bolt a patch in from the inside, with a thinmetal strap holding the tire together on the outside with a carriage bolt facing out, running through a thick rubber boot from the inside to the outside, nuts tightened, welded and studs sticking out trimmed. Seen many done that way.
    on a tire thats not falling apart from dry rot those would work, but that tire has no stable rubber left to grab onto, you would end up just ripping what you bolted to...

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Just needs boot polish.

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbytime View Post
    on a tire thats not falling apart from dry rot those would work, but that tire has no stable rubber left to grab onto, you would end up just ripping what you bolted to...
    I've seen worse fixed like this, just larger patches across the split. Tractor tires are tough. Even dry rotted split ones. These are a minimum of 6 ply to start, possibly more. Ideal fix? No. Doable? Yes. If it gives another couple years it'll be worth it. If it is on grass or light service, who knows how long. I've seen tires survive like this for a decade.
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    There have been several posts on this thread, but have not seen anymore by Samm since he started the thread? I hope he is okay, maybe he is just busier then a one legged man in a butt kicking contest trying out all the methods of repair you have all mentioned

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    A light tractor carrying no loads . could maybe run around on those tires for a while. But add a trailer
    with a load and those cracks inside will keep nipping the tube. Iv'e seen fairly decent tires with hardly even noticeable
    cracks having to be changed for that reason

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Find a bigger old inner tube, slice the inside section off where it meets the rim, glue it to the inside of the tire, coat with baby powder to sop up the excess glue that seeps out along the beads, and slap it back together. OR spray the inside with some rocker guard where the big cracks are. Or glue a couple pieces of used baler belt inside.
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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So far, the exterior patch has kept the innertube from getting punctured. Still haven't got a line on a replacement tire that's affordable, AND NOT A CHEAPO WITH LESS LUGS THAN A GOOD TIRE. (Lot of the cheaper tires have lower lug count, which means that it either rides rough on the pavement, and chews up the lugs........or it rides too much on the flat in dirt, and can get a puncture...........all about the gap between the tread lugs)

    I know it seems like I'm crazy to do the exterior patch..............it's a gamble to keep running till I find a tire.

    I actually do know how to make a tire good. Dunno if y'all remember a post long time back about a "new" tire I bought at auction that had a tear in the sidewall. Brand new Firestone radial (about $800 new) that I got for around 350ish...........but found out that they'd put the bad side down so ya couldn't see it at the auction.

    Got it home, got ready to mount it, and instant bummer!!!!!!!!!!! According to my dates on the pics, it was sometime last October.

    So..............not to let it get the best of me..........I got ahold of this outfit in Tulsa, and they brought some boots out. I bought a coupla sizes.

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    Glued 'em inside, not in the "right" way, and made do. I needed to provide as much support for an innertube as possible.

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    Put the tube from the old tire in, and aired her up................

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Size:  211.2 KB Worst place for a boot........on the sidewall.....because a radial flexes so much. BUT SHE'S HELD UP THROUGH THE MUD, THE BLOOD, AND THE BEER, SINCE LAST FALL Honest To God.........the tear hasn't grown in the time since the boots were put in.

    I keep hoping I can stumble on another deal like this............but time is limited........need the loader almost daily, and that bandaid ain't gonna hold up forever.

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    I think the average guy doesn't appreciate the force of compressed air.

    These tires generally run between about 15psi, and maybe a max of maybe 18psi. The force of that large mass of air, compressed to the specified psi, is absolutely awesome. People have been killed airing up large tractor tires to 30psi.

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    K'kins is quite familiar with volume, and pressure.

    She tells me that if I were an elephant, my pfarts would accelerate global warming by 20yrs

    But, y'all are safe for the time being..................I'm strictly high pressure, low volume

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So far, the exterior patch has kept the innertube from getting punctured. Still haven't got a line on a replacement tire that's affordable, AND NOT A CHEAPO WITH LESS LUGS THAN A GOOD TIRE. (Lot of the cheaper tires have lower lug count, which means that it either rides rough on the pavement, and chews up the lugs........or it rides too much on the flat in dirt, and can get a puncture...........all about the gap between the tread lugs)

    I know it seems like I'm crazy to do the exterior patch..............it's a gamble to keep running till I find a tire.

    I actually do know how to make a tire good. Dunno if y'all remember a post long time back about a "new" tire I bought at auction that had a tear in the sidewall. Brand new Firestone radial (about $800 new) that I got for around 350ish...........but found out that they'd put the bad side down so ya couldn't see it at the auction.

    Got it home, got ready to mount it, and instant bummer!!!!!!!!!!! According to my dates on the pics, it was sometime last October.

    So..............not to let it get the best of me..........I got ahold of this outfit in Tulsa, and they brought some boots out. I bought a coupla sizes.

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    Glued 'em inside, not in the "right" way, and made do. I needed to provide as much support for an innertube as possible.

    Name:  tire boot2.JPG
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    Put the tube from the old tire in, and aired her up................

    Name:  tire boot3.JPG
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Size:  211.2 KB Worst place for a boot........on the sidewall.....because a radial flexes so much. BUT SHE'S HELD UP THROUGH THE MUD, THE BLOOD, AND THE BEER, SINCE LAST FALL Honest To God.........the tear hasn't grown in the time since the boots were put in.

    I keep hoping I can stumble on another deal like this............but time is limited........need the loader almost daily, and that bandaid ain't gonna hold up forever.
    if you stitched that slice with some heavy fishing line or para cord then a patch from the inside you wouldnt have it pulling apart like that....fishing line like 80 lb test would work fine and is real cheap...

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    I think the average guy doesn't appreciate the force of compressed air.

    These tires generally run between about 15psi, and maybe a max of maybe 18psi. The force of that large mass of air, compressed to the specified psi, is absolutely awesome. People have been killed airing up large tractor tires to 30psi.
    I do... I have witnessed four tires on heavy equipment blow out for various reasons. It ain't pretty when one lets go. The worst was one of those beadless tires on a 992 Cat loader with the steel track band tread, they run at 120 PSI. It was parked in the corner and a sidewall let go. blew all the windows out of three trucks parked nearby. One truck lost a radiator from the flying junk that blew through the air. Luckily nobody was near it when it blew. I was 600 feet away behind a D-9 cat and had rocks hitting my truck. The tire guys said the heat of the sun raised the pressure enough to blow it out.
    The other worst was a 37.5"x 39" radial on the rear of a scraper that blew a sidewall at full tilt boogie on a hard packed haul road, I was the operator and thought I was deaf for life. It blew a 3 foot deep hole in that road. and a few smaller ones as the pressure went down. It was 3 days before my ears quit ringing.

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    I dont see farmer sam being around here much longer by the back woods repairs he is thinking of doing. But, hey, its all on him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugrat View Post
    I dont see farmer sam being around here much longer by the back woods repairs he is thinking of doing. But, hey, its all on him!
    I don't think a tire is going to get him.. More like his Girlfriend..

    I had a 14" 914 Porsche Continental tire knock me silly with the sidewall blowing up when mounting it.. That was 45 years ago, and a important lesson on what air pressure can do.. It hit harder then baseball bat to the face. Which I also felt..either way going to see stars if you are lucky....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugrat View Post
    I dont see farmer sam being around here much longer by the back woods repairs he is thinking of doing. But, hey, its all on him!
    Hey rugrat,
    have a couple of your favourite ales and chill dude. Sammm's been around a long time and knows what he's doin

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    Re: Farmersammm's Tire Repair

    This is why I run beadlocks.
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