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    Leg Press Question

    I have been asked to make a replica of the vertical leg press below. My only question is about the portion that moves up and down along the round bar runner. I plan to use cold rolled round for the stationary portion and a DOM tubing for the portion that moves up and down. What material should I use to act as a bearing between the cold rolled and DOM. I have seen a dense plastic with holes drilled in the center but I'm not sure what the plastic is called. Or the type of bearing needed.
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    Re: Leg Press Question

    I have seen Linear ball bearings but gettthat OD to match my pipe or DOM ID will be tough

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    Look at IGUS bushings. And linear motion "Thompson" shafting for the shiny shaft. McMaster-Carr has both.
    https://www.mcmaster.com/precision-s...tion-shafts-5/
    https://www.mcmaster.com/bushings/li...ng-type~plain/

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    The plastic is called UHMW for Ultra High Molecular Weight. It is a machinable plastic and is used as a bearing quite a bit in industrial applications. It comes in different thicknesses that I've seen up to 1" and more down to 1/32".
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    Re: Leg Press Question

    I found this at Mcmaster carr Oil-Filled Easy-to-Machine
    Wear-Resistant Cast Nylon Tubes https://www.mcmaster.com/84755K414.

    Hot Rod Troy I have used that plastic in strips for squat racks in strip form. People like it because it does not wear the bar down (A section no one touches under 6"5")
    I did not know it was in round form. I will have to check that out

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb0thn View Post
    Look at IGUS bushings. And linear motion "Thompson" shafting for the shiny shaft. McMaster-Carr has both.
    https://www.mcmaster.com/precision-s...tion-shafts-5/
    https://www.mcmaster.com/bushings/li...ng-type~plain/
    Those look great, but not in this guys budget.

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    You might take a look at pex tubing. It's cheap and durable.

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    They have cheaper alternatives : For 3/4" Shaft Dia.
    7/8" 1 1/4" 1 1/16" 1/16" 155 lbs. @ 60 rpm 50 lbs. @ 60 rpm White -200° to 180° Made of FDA Listed Materials 57785K226 $9.29

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    https://www.mcmaster.com/uhmw-polyethylene-bushings/

    Available in 3/16" to 1-1/2" shaft dia.

    Mcmaster isn't the cheapest, you could find on Amazon cheaper if you needed bulk. You could also make your own on a lathe. UHMW needs a nice sharp tool to get a nice cut.

    good luck
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    Re: Leg Press Question

    Just for added info UHMW is also available in ROLLS of self adhesive strips in various widths and thicknesses.

    I have used them on barbell storage racks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    Just for added info UHMW is also available in ROLLS of self adhesive strips in various widths and thicknesses.

    I have used them on barbell storage racks.

    I will look into that. I use 1/4 thickness in 2 and 3" widths frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albrightree View Post
    They have cheaper alternatives : For 3/4" Shaft Dia.
    7/8" 1 1/4" 1 1/16" 1/16" 155 lbs. @ 60 rpm 50 lbs. @ 60 rpm White -200° to 180° Made of FDA Listed Materials 57785K226 $9.29

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    https://www.mcmaster.com/uhmw-polyethylene-bushings/

    Available in 3/16" to 1-1/2" shaft dia.

    Mcmaster isn't the cheapest, you could find on Amazon cheaper if you needed bulk. You could also make your own on a lathe. UHMW needs a nice sharp tool to get a nice cut.

    good luck
    That might be perfect

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    Is that a common style bushing on press machines. I was wondering, how will those handle the compression from hitting that spring. The hammer effect might affect both ends? Seems like internal machining of the tubing might be necessary?

    Is bronze not an option.

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    Good point. Bronze is an option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reebz View Post
    Good point. Bronze is an option
    surprisingly , Bronze is cheaper(at least in this size). These are common machine parts, and should last a fairly long time, even in compression.

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    Multipurpose Flanged Sleeve Bearings

    These leaded bronze bearings are strong, wear resistant, and excellent at handling shock loads. They’re sometimes called 932 bronze bearings.


    For 3/4" Shaft Dia.
    7/8" 1/2" 1 1/8" 1/8" 1,500 lbs. @ 60 rpm 2,200 lbs. @ 60 rpm Required -350° to 450° 7815K45 $3.60
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    Stupid question, How do these stay in place?

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    This is something at the gym similar to my idea

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    Re: Leg Press Question

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    That is what I meant by internal machining. Otherwise, I suspect the parts could vibrate out or be damaged by the hammering? I would suspect even bronze would break or deform due to normal use on the machine.

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    Tapwelder
    What would you suggest I do?

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    What they did, is the way I would do it. Machine a seat for the bearing and slot for a lock ring of some sort to hold the bearing. Doesn't appear they are using a straight tube. No need DOM, if dimension is sole reason for selection. Just machine the ends to fit the bearing appropriately.

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    Design begins with the shaft size necessary to carry the load.

    then a bushing should be seleced for wear, and clearance . If your concern with damage to a flanged bushing select a straight bushing.

    Select a tubing whose od fits the bushing you have selected , keeping in mind that a larger wall thickness will have less distortion from welding (don't over weld).

    Select a "push lock" retainer that works in the ID of the tube , that retains the bushing, and allows clearance for the shaft.

    Most of the ID, and OD are standard sizes so you should be able to get away without having to do any machining of part to fit an internal fit, and retaining ring.

    Good Luck
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    Re: Leg Press Question

    https://www.grainger.com/product/4YR...87MP9:20500731


    tbh i didnt fully read not sure if someone suggested it already. They come in diff sizes, they're not cheap though.

    As a gym rat myself, a lot of people have asked me to make gym equipment and honestly its rare I can make it for the same price or less than they can buy it for.

    I'd look for replacement smith machine or leg press parts, and build off them.
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    Re: Leg Press Question

    Thanks Guys. I have been out of town and unable to respond. I don't have access to a lath. At this point I think I'm going to try Wear-Resistant Cast Nylon Tubes https://www.mcmaster.com/84755K414.

    Zach I agree about gym equipment, I work toooooo cheap

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    Re: Leg Press Question

    The guy has the cash so I started this build.
    I had a Amish man drill out the plastic (he had it in stock) and he said he would turn it down on his lath so the plastic would fit in the pipe. I did not want him to fit it until I was done welding, too late
    1. Do you think If weld the pipe (to hold the plates) to the pipe holding the plastic(see picture 1) and quench with water I will screw up the plastic? or The weld? I don't think I can get the plastic out. I have a press but may try.

    2. The first picture is clearly the easiest method. I could run the pipe length wise to connect with the portions holding the plastic. Each side will need to carry 400lbs. The load will not be centered on the shaft however. Note the foot pad is not shown. I fear it may bind. What do you think? The kid thinks he can load 800lbs on press it, I imagine that is realistic.

    The second picture shows a pipe centered to the runner. The pipe needs to be 10-12' long to get the needed wt. I don't want 400lb on and 1.5' pipe. If I put a gusset It may work. But It will have a **** ton off heat.
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    Interesting. Does the plastic run the length of the tube? It you remove it, it may not go back in if the metal distorts from welding? I don't think quenching the weld is a good idea.

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