A multiprocess machine usually does a few things ok but not great.
Just keep that in mind. You get a compromise. If that suits your needs, great.
Having said that, my advice is always the same. Buy as much machine as you can afford. That doesn’t have to be new. Used machines offer great value.
You can always turn a machine down and use less power. You can never squeeze more power out of a lesser machine.
If you get good at welding 1/8”, welding 1/2” is just more fun to be had! Lol
Just wanted to say that I was not suggesting NOT getting a multi purpose machine. Just saying they are not the best of all worlds.
And I just bought the Lincoln 210MP. Lol
Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIG
Lincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-Pull
Lincoln TIG 300-300
Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v Thanks JLAMES
CK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cup
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101
My brain
I dont really think ill use stick or tig much on my 235 but knowing I can is nice. I have a dedicated stick machine but I can hook a rod to the 235 if im bored or maybe out of gas or idunno.
Im really liking the inverter. Im sure the red ones or just as good maybe better.
I'm not gonna go through the typical forum BS. I use them, know them, trust them. If anyone is interested, PM me to avoid the usual idiotic nonsense of forum Bluto's. Of course this is only my experience, but I've shown here that I make things using them for a living.
I have more than one welder. I can not pick up my MIG or my TIG and throw it in the backseat of my wife's car to do a quick task for a friend. My Precision Tig 275 and my PowerMig 350MP handled a lot of jobs.
I have a TIG 300/300 and it is a beast for pure grunt.
I don’t know why anyone makes a big deal about brand any more than chevy vs ford. It’s just preference.
But if someone is comparing Red to Blue, it’s cool.
If you are comparing that other green brand? Well, I think that horse has been beat.
Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIG
Lincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-Pull
Lincoln TIG 300-300
Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v Thanks JLAMES
CK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cup
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101
My brain
It's a predominantly MMA power source, with a CV mode and an interconnect, with controls on the feeder. Demoed this set yesterday, and it's utterly fantastic. I thought my Miller XMT was smooth on stick, but this is smoother. And the MIG mode is just the same.
When it comes to multiprocess inverters, I do believe that inverters can do stick and MIG just as good as seperate machines can. But in this day and age, if you want TIG, you want a seperate machine for that.
I do think blue has the upper hand on TIG machines.
There. I said it.
But I won’t buy one. Red is my brand.
My mom always said I would cut off my nose to spite my face. Guess she was right?
Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIG
Lincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-Pull
Lincoln TIG 300-300
Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v Thanks JLAMES
CK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cup
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101
My brain
Just wanted to say that I was not suggesting NOT getting a multi purpose machine. Just saying they are not the best of all worlds.
And I just bought the Lincoln 210MP. Lol
Does that machine still require an additional Tig kit to be installed first for tig ? I realize they all need a reg, tig torch and pedal but I think you have to add something inside the machine too.
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I'm not gonna go through the typical forum BS. I use them, know them, trust them. If anyone is interested, PM me to avoid the usual idiotic nonsense of forum Bluto's. Of course this is only my experience, but I've shown here that I make things using them for a living.
Which one of those are a multiprocess?
Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR"
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I do think blue has the upper hand on TIG machines.
There. I said it.
But I won’t buy one. Red is my brand.
My mom always said I would cut off my nose to spite my face. Guess she was right?
I won't knock anybody's favorite brand, we all have to spend our own money and make our own budgets and while I will buy another color other than red it wont be blue, yellow or green unless the yellow is weldpro at a fraction of the cost of the popular yellow machine. I too am a dyed in the wool Lincoln fan and have been since I was old enough to read the word Lincoln on one of my uncles rigs and those old rust and grey SA's are the sexiest thing on the road. BAR NONE.
I am jealous of you guys with the MP's and I would love to have one of the red transformer tig machines but as of right now it would cost money instead of making money but I am considering trying some mobile welding if I can ever retire from my day gig and if I do I will likely run my square wave and the 180 with a 9000 watt generator I already own to see if I can stay busy and if so I am really liking some of the new Lincoln engine drives. I like the trail blazer I use at work but we have stupid problems with it, the manual reset fuse fails about twice a year and the switch gear gets stiff and sometimes hangs up. it has always been stored under shelter at the least most the time in a closed warehouse, never been truck mounted and has always been serviced at under 50 hours. I know that is not normal for Miller but when you are already biased....
Where do I get one of those posters?
Terry, I thought my XMT was a smooth stick welder, but I've got a new favourite... Lorch Micor tech is just unreal. I'm looking forward to trying out the fronius transpocket to compare directly with the micorstick.
Munkul a member here on Welding Web graciously sent me out a bunch of banners.
They are totally appreciated and kinda spiff up the shop.
I would love to try a MicorStick. I assume it welds similar to my Lorch 320SP.
Transpockets are available in Canada but I have never tried one. Not certain about the Lorch equivalent.
Looking forward to your comparisons.
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I'm not sure... Micor is a newer "resonant" inverter type for Lorch with what they call a "voltage reserve" or something. I didn't really care TBH, thought it was just marketing. Then I tried it, and actually used it for a job... whatever it is, it's pretty special.
Certainly the T series TIG sets don't stick weld like the Micorstick. It's by no means bad, but I vastly prefer the Miller XMT to my HT200 for stick. But now I prefer the micorstick to the XMT.
We didn't try any stick welding with the S3 (320SP) when we had one on hire. I wonder if you fancy running an XMT vs 320SP back-to-back test?
Personally I don’t like all in one machines. I use these machines every day. My main machine is an XMT304 that I use with a 60 series feeder. I stick weld with it occasionally. I have tigged with it, DC only, no A/C. A fine machine. I have a MM200, a MM185, a MM140, a big transformer welder, and a Sync 250 as well. So I have back ups, and back ups for my back ups. If a multi process machine breaks, you are generally down for all your processes. If one of my machines break, I still have all the rest of my processes available.
The multi process machines are generally lacking, in my opinion, in either amps, duty cycle, or processes. For example, a machine has mig, stick, and tig, but only DC tig. The duty cycle is less than 60% (which I would consider minimum), or just plain short on amps (an A/C tig welder less than 250 amps is just a toy, not a tool).
So my advice is to buy a dedicated machine for your most used process (usually MIG) and then start saving your pennies for your next machine of a different process. Buy good quality, and buy once, cry once!
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