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Pattern Book
I've always found it very handy to have the old books on hand. For some reason, they are just more easily understood. Maybe it's the writing style. Dunno. But I like them and The Archive is a wonderful resource for anyone curious about how things were done back in the day.
On top of that, most everything they did then is still applicable today.
One of my favorite "Pattern Books", for example, helps you do a ton of things in the shop even if you're not working tin. Many is the time I've used these layout techniques to design and cut out thicker steel that I wanted to forge to shape and weld up into a larger piece. It's real easy to draw something out on a piece of paper, but drawing a working pattern that'll get you from a flat sheet to a curved sheet that'll fit like you want it to fit.... well, a Pattern Book sure comes in handy! 
https://archive.org/details/tinsmith...ge/20/mode/2up
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It is a good book.
I think most could use this book. I have more book one showing this data that dates back to 1940's.
My father first show how to use data on plate. We had a drafting board 40" x 96" to and use white butcher paper 36" wide to draw out patterns.
Dave

Originally Posted by
VaughnT
I've always found it very handy to have the old books on hand. For some reason, they are just more easily understood. Maybe it's the writing style. Dunno. But I like them and
The Archive is a wonderful resource for anyone curious about how things were done back in the day.
On top of that, most everything they did then is still applicable today.
One of my favorite "Pattern Books", for example, helps you do a ton of things in the shop even if you're not working tin. Many is the time I've used these layout techniques to design and cut out thicker steel that I wanted to forge to shape and weld up into a larger piece. It's real easy to draw something out on a piece of paper, but drawing a working pattern that'll get you from a flat sheet to a curved sheet that'll fit like you want it to fit.... well, a Pattern Book sure comes in handy!
https://archive.org/details/tinsmith...ge/20/mode/2up

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Never said it was the only book. That Archive site has hundreds of books, some very relevant, but out of print.
I prefer the older books, pre-1970, because of their writing style and that special patina that only old books can have.
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I agree
It is like the Machinist Hand Book after 1960's it less information. The last one I look just so must useless information.
Dave

Originally Posted by
VaughnT
Never said it was the only book. That Archive site has hundreds of books, some very relevant, but out of print.
I prefer the older books, pre-1970, because of their writing style and that special patina that only old books can have.
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Originally Posted by
smithdoor
I agree
It is like the Machinist Hand Book after 1960's it less information. The last one I look just so must useless information.
Dave
Are you talking about Machinery's, or another book?
Machinery's is the equivalent of the welders Bible from Lincoln. I use the Machinery's almost on a weekly basis.
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[Yes it is the machinist bible I have both books
Dave
QUOTE=farmersammm;8792575]Are you talking about Machinery's, or another book?
Machinery's is the equivalent of the welders Bible from Lincoln. I use the Machinery's almost on a weekly basis.[/QUOTE]
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Smithdoor..........................
I definitely agree that Machinery's has some antiquated info. But..................is it still valid?
I had to tap some bronze about 2 yrs ago. Machinery's recommended an animal fat tap lube. I got some bacon fat/drippings, and had at it
That tap ran like butter!!!!!!!!!! And the tap tasted like HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kidding aside..............the bacon fat ran nice........better than the tapping fluid I use.
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Thanks for the link, I have been on the lookout for some pattern books for sheet metal, they seem to be few and expensive.
Miller Challenger 172
Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150
Miller Maxstar 150 STL
Victor 100C
Victor Journeyman
Oxweld OA
Harris O/A
Smith O/A little torch
No, that's not my car.
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Been wandering on that site a bit, there's some great old TV shows. I like watching those old shows from the 50's and 60's where they had live music performances. What a great site!
Miller Challenger 172
Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150
Miller Maxstar 150 STL
Victor 100C
Victor Journeyman
Oxweld OA
Harris O/A
Smith O/A little torch
No, that's not my car.
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Originally Posted by
bigb
Been wandering on that site a bit.....
Yea, it's definitely one of those websites that'll suck the time right out of your day!
I just bought a copy of The Tinsmith's Helper Pattern Book off ebay for a pittance... and from a Goodwill shop so all the money goes to charity. I wouldn't necessarily have done that if I couldn't have seen inside the cover on the Archive site first.
I wonder if roof flashing is too thin to use. I'd had to practice on something like that just to have it be so flimsy that I end up with something that just can't be used beyond setting on a shelf to look pretty for fear it'll get dent or bent.
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Hey Vaughn T, what type of layouts are you looking for ? I have round, rectangular, triangulation, parallel line pattern development. Anything tat can be fabricated from flat sheet. Also 45 + years of experience.
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Originally Posted by
hommeacier
Hey Vaughn T, what type of layouts are you looking for ? I have round, rectangular, triangulation, parallel line pattern development. Anything tat can be fabricated from flat sheet. Also 45 + years of experience.
Can't say that I have anything particular in mind. After smithing for all these years, the idea of doing something "easier" does sound appealing and it'd be nice to not have to swing a heavy hammer for hours at a time.
I've always been intrigued by sheetmetal work, especially the tin stuff from the Colonial days. Not having to light the forge and deal with scorching-hot steel and setting my beard on fire would be a bonus.
Knowing absolutely nothing about the trade, I'm always up for learning and seeing what I can do and how I can incorporate what I know from blacksmithing - even if that's just making some stakes and chisels.
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