We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

[mrwingnut]

Hey Just thought I would pass along a little info, Bills Welder Repair told me last week when I called that if I was going to fire up a SA 200 that had been sitting to take the cover from around the windings and clean out the rats nest in there before I start it. I don't know how she knew but there was one in there, exactly where she said. Saved me alot of trouble.

Just a note that the Autolite 386 plugs that someone posted about are acceptable if you are running a Dist. on your machine. Mine has a Mag. so she said that I need the D16 Champions. Last she said that they are gapped .030" I gapped mine .025" like lincoln said.

Hope this helps, lots of great info in this sticky!

[mrwingnut]

Hey does anyone have the part numbers for the hose between the carb and oil bath air filter. I seem to have ruined mine and was thinking that it looks like something I could get a t NAPA.
Clay

[RobertDoubrava]

In addition to the parts kd5inm posted, I found these for the Hercules IXB5:

Fel-Pro 7557S Head gasket
Fel-Pro MS8355B Exhaust-Intake manifold gasket set

[user 9328330]

Carquest carb kit for Marvel Schebler TSX 514 carb (from a 1963 SA 200): 1302
Carquest spin-on oil filter for F-163 (NAPA 1050 equivalent): 85050

[Dcarlu5724]

What are some of these old red face Lincolns worth? I know the condition will affect the value but just generaly speaking are they worth much. And are the red faced f162 and short hood models worth more?

[joestewart]

Hey guys, This is a great thread. Very helpful! Does anyone have the Felpro part number for the "head gasket set" or "top end gasket set" for the F162 F163? Thanks J. Stewart

[user 9328330]

If you order the Hybriweld dry air cleaner system to replace your oil bath air cleaner, and you have a Marvel-Schebler carburetor, you'll also need to find separately a reducer hose, from the 1.75" air cleaner to the 1.5" carb inlet. I found one on ebay for $9.00 shipped just now.

Hybriweld ships the kit with a straight 1.75" hose, which I guess must work with the Zenith carbs.

Joestewart, the only Fel-Pro P/N I have is for the complete gasket kit, which is FS 7183 PT.

[KSellon]

http://www.billswelderrepair.com/fil...d_Overhaul.pdf

http://www.billswelderrepair.com/files/disassembly.jpg

Champion D16 spark plugs gap .030


http://www.billswelderrepair.com/SA200parts.html

[KSellon]

walker brand carb kit for the Marvel carb is 778505

[gizzardgutz]

F162 drop in oil filter Wix # C3P...post # 15 in the following thread.
http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=42813

[victory12]

oh by the way auto lite spark plugs work pretty well , not every one carrys them but they can be had .

My old sa200 had what I thought was a magneto problem, so I put the coil and ballest off a isuzu motor and ran it for a year till one day, for no apperant reason, I reconnected the mag and guess what? It works now. hmmmm?
Sweetest arc burning!

[RobertDoubrava]

These parts should be availible at any decent parts house (Carquest, Napa, any old Mom 'n Pop type store), or they can usually order them:

Gates/Carquest TR22455, V belt for older SA200's with a 12 volt generator. You can also use a TR22461 if you're in a bind, you won't have much adjustment left on it though.
Standard Ignition/Carquest S10-478, point set for Fairbanks-Morse magnetos
Standard Ignition/Carquest S6-138, condenser for Fairbanks-Morse magnetos

[hellhound]

www.stumpfweldingsupplies.com has the gaskets and assorted other parts listed with pretty decent prices

[kolot]

Weldmart says time the 162/162 with a vacum guage, heres the link
http://weldmart.com/technical/Continentaltiming.html

[kolot]

CV adapter is Lincoln K384, code #8963 here is the owners manual and instructions for install and testing.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im309.pdf

[kolot]

Read the following, Continental 162/163 may use 2 different ring gears and therefore need 2 different starters.
119 T Ring gear meshes with a 10 T starter
96 T Ring gear meshes with a 9 T starter.

[kolot]

Radiator cap, Murray 7007 for 5 bucks and O'reilly's
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...p?keyword=7007

[soiii]

Magneto Wire Set- Napa part # 700172

[kolot]

Some starter info that pertains to my 81 SA200,

Delco Remy starter 1109437 Solenoid NAPA/ Echlin # ST124 Starter drive and clutch Delco Remy # 204 9 tooth 1" diameter O.D. gear, gear length .550", 2.970 overall length, .755 I.D. 3 spline spiral
Pulley for activator is 1.960 O.D. and gear and clutch I.D. is .470. Clutch is 5 roller and stamped SU.
My machine is an 81 and has a 133Tooth ring gear
Local starter rebuilder says this can be found on some older GM, not sure which.

[kolot]

Thermostat, 180 deg. NAPA 530080

[60redfacer]

PAINT CODES

Dupont paint codes for lincoln engine drives are:

pre 1991: 6334

1991 - approx. 1997: 45832

1997 to present: B8012

[denrep]

Gaskets, Cont. F-163:

Gasket, Cylinder head - Felpro 7183 PT
Gasket, Intake manifold - McCord MS-2548




Gasket, Carburetor mounting....... Taco Bell 12-PK

[60redfacer]

FRONT SEAL REPLACEMENT TIPS

When changing the front seal, I use an impact with a 1 1/2'' socket. Remove the battery, (some machines the original hand crank bracket has to be removed ) then with a 7" extension on the impact remove the bolt holding the front pulley. It's a little tight but you dont have to remove the radiator or the sheet metal.
I like to use a speedy sleeve on the snout of the pulley to correct the worn grove . I've added some part numbers. Look on www.rockauto.com they are very good priced I order from them regularly, just put the part number in the part number search box.

Front seal National 8650s
Speedy Sleeve National 99212

[denrep]

Carburetor tag data, from late ‘70s F-163 with Marvel Schebler carburetor:

MARVEL SCHEBLER
TSX-979
M-12484-2
79

[Tuscany]

Part number for a gm one wire alternator from rockauto.com $37 + shipping direct bolt on replacement.

PURE ENERGY Part # 7127103