We Need An SA-200 Info/FAQ Sticky

[TozziWelding]

ZTFab, think we can get a sticky up with SA 200 FAQ's. Part Numbers, distributors, general info and links.

Some basic motor part numbers here.
Spark Plugs(you need 4 ) Champion D-16 gap .025
Oil Filter, Fram PB50, WIX 51050, NAPA 1050, Baldwin B50
Head Gasket, Fel-Pro 7183PT
Carb kit for a Marvel carb, NAPA 2-1401

A great SA-200 Link www.weldmart.com

If we can sticky all this stuff that would be great.

[slag man]

I second that!
Torque specifications would be good also......

[rodinator1234]

I think that would be cool as well.

Isn't it amazing the popularity of the SA-200, especially the old one. It's almost like a cult following or something. I used to think they couldn't be that special, what's so special about them. People say they are the best welders made bla,bla. That was before I owned one. Now I drive around and look for another old one to pull out of the weeds and fix. I've had mine running for two months, and have used it at least 5 times a week after work and on Sat. I don't know how I got along with out it. I know eventually I'll run out of stuff to weld, and it'll go back under the shed, but I'll never not have one.

[ZTFab]

Thanks for the great suggestion guys.

I'll get working on it.

- Paul

[slag man]

I Was working a job in Baton Rouge and this pipe welder told me about the sa-200 "Red Face" and I knew I had to get one. Later, My GF on another job told me he had one at his house in TX and said if I came down, he would give it to me. The engine was locked up. Anyway, on my way to TX, I found another one on a trailer and bought it for $500.00 and brought both home. On the way home, I found another for $400.00, which I will pick up within the next month. I have the one on the trailer dismantled and will start on an engine rebuild as soon as I can. I have a strong background in auto engine repair, and 20 years of body repair and paint (Air Force). I plan to rebuild all of them and sell one or two. One thing I can say for sure, they are very well made. I hope to move into pipe welding soon but need some further instruction in getting the root down..............

[TozziWelding]

Fan Belt; NAPA 5L480W

[thomasg990]

Do you know thepoints setting for the SA200 . I dont know the year I just got it and I am tring to get it going .

[TozziWelding]

Set tee points at .020 and you should be good to go. The ones in mine are still eyeball gaped and she runs fine.

[thomasg990]

Thanks for the info on the points .That works fine I now have fire now I think the carb is poss. full of crap as it sat for about 5 years .It dosent seem to be getting gas .It turns and fires but the plugs stay dry .It did pop a few times on starting fluid .Is there anyway to tell the age ??? Thanks again...

[TozziWelding]

I just "rebuilt" the carb on one I just picked up with 2 cans of carb cleaner. It runs and welds ok, but needs a real rebuild in the future.

[boilermaker]

zenith fuel systems .com has all the rebuild kits for the carbs and they cover the marvel-shrieber carbs as well , there is a company that supplys all the mag parts for both american bousch and fairbanks I have orderd parts from them and they good to deal with , I beleive there called american mag.

[boilermaker]

ok (american eletric ignition) has the mag parts plus all the manuals

[Coalsmoke]

Good thread guys. Nothing better than a redface

[ShieldArc]

Fan Belt; NAPA 5L480W

There are 2 widths of fan belts used over the yrs. The older ones used the wider belt.

[ShieldArc]

Do you know thepoints setting for the SA200 . I dont know the year I just got it and I am tring to get it going .

All the fairbanks morse mags you set the points to .015

[ShieldArc]

zenith fuel systems .com has all the rebuild kits for the carbs and they cover the marvel-shrieber carbs as well , there is a company that supplys all the mag parts for both american bousch and fairbanks I have orderd parts from them and they good to deal with , I beleive there called american mag.

I dont know about the bosch mags, but I recomend you use genuine Fairbanks parts for Fairbanks mags. They cost more but fit perfectly and last the longest.

[ShieldArc]

zenith fuel systems .com has all the rebuild kits for the carbs and they cover the marvel-shrieber carbs as well , there is a company that supplys all the mag parts for both american bousch and fairbanks I have orderd parts from them and they good to deal with , I beleive there called american mag.

Be sure to set the float level on a TSX Marvel Schebler carb at 1/4" with the gasket instaled.

[boilermaker]

oh by the way auto lite spark plugs work pretty well , not every one carrys them but they can be had .

[mooseye]

My old sa200 had what I thought was a magneto problem, so I put the coil and ballest off a isuzu motor and ran it for a year till one day, for no apperant reason, I reconnected the mag and guess what? It works now. hmmmm?
Sweetest arc burning!

[kd5inm]

ZTFab, think we can get a sticky up with SA 200 FAQ's. Part Numbers, distributors, general info and links.

Some basic motor part numbers here.
Spark Plugs(you need 4 ) Champion D-16 gap .025
Oil Filter, Fram PB50, WIX 51050, NAPA 1050, Baldwin B50
Head Gasket, Fel-Pro 7183PT
Carb kit for a Marvel carb, NAPA 2-1401

A great SA-200 Link www.weldmart.com

If we can sticky all this stuff that would be great.

Hi all, I'm new here, just found this group. I've owned a Lincoln SA-200 for about 12 years. I've done considerable work on mine, including new rings, bearings, gaskets, brushes, etc. I also grafted a waterpump from a 1983 mazda RX-7 on to my welder. The old one had quit working/leaked when the previous owner had it, with parts hard to find, I took the old one off and put a pulley on in it's place and put a water pump off the mazda on it and drove it with a belt, it works great.
Tozzi, I don't think your parts list will work for my SA-200.
My SA-200 has a Hercules IXB5 engine in it. The casting date of the engine is 11-27-1939. It takes Champion W-20 spark plugs. The Fel-Pro gasket set is part number FS 7557 S-2. Rings for it are Sealed Power SP 617X or TRW T1387X
IXB5 firing order is 1243 spark plug gap =.025 Breaker point gap =.020 ignition timing mark is DC 1-4 on the flywheel Cylinder head torque = 40 ft lbs.
Valve seat Angle is 30 degrees valve clearance is .006 HOT for intake and .008 HOT for exhaust valves Outer minimum valve spring lbs @ inch length is 42lbs @ 1 3/16 in (no inner spring is used)
IXB5 piston clearnace is .0035, wrist pin diameter is.75 Ring end gap minimum is .015 for COMP and OIL Rod bearings shaft diameter 1.747-1.748 rod bearing clearance is .991-.0015 Rod bolt torque is 42 ft lbs. main bearings shaft diameter is 1.987-1.988 main bearing clearance is .002-.0025 and main bolt torque is 77ft lbs
IXB5 bore and stroke is 3 1/4 X 4 Displacement is 133 Cu In. Compression ratio is 6.50 HP is 46 @3200 RPM torque is 92 ft lbs @ 1800 RPM Normal oil pressure is 20 lbs oil capacity is about 5-6 quarts on my model
I have a book with specs in it for the Hercules motors and others plus I wrote down information I collected while rebuilding the engine.
This welder is so old, it doesn't have a code. It's a redface machine though. I called/go by Lincoln or local repair/parts house and they ask me for a code, I tell them it doesn't have one and then they give me this dumb look, like they don't know what to do and they act shocked that there is no code. I tell them it's a late 1939 model, then they understand....lol
The hand crank on it still works, last time I fired her up, she welded like a dream, prettiest welds I've ever seen. I replaced the brushes in the generator so that made all the difference.
Hope this info helps someone out there. I've been all through this machine. I had two others , one of which I parted out and used some parts from it for the 39 model, the other I sold along with part of the parts machine (both those machines were newer than the 39 model I have, I looked up the casting dates on the side of the engine block.

John

[TozziWelding]

Upper hose: Gates 20606
Lower hose: Gates 20705

[David R]

OK, we will try it.

David

[TozziWelding]

Thanks Dave.

[TozziWelding]

F162 and F163
Oil pan set:
Victor - OS20509
FelPro OS30236

Front cover set:
(included front seal)
Victor - JV894
FelPro - TCS54182

Valve cover:
Victor - VS38083
FelPro - Purchased FelPro, but I lost the number.

While we're at it, F226 (six cylinder)
Head gasket:
Victor - 986S
FelPro - 7191S

Courtesy of Denrep.

[j-rod]

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