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    Quote Originally Posted by Weldakota View Post
    I didn't see any for apprentices on there? I'll keep pressing I guess


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    You get rated usually after u interview and weld test. In the Portland yard starting pay is $18-$21 top end is close to $32 now. Some guys start in the middle of the pay range or closer to the top its all up to you and how hard u wk.
    Dont give up! Give it a try, they have an apprenticeship program in Seattle thru the Boilermakers Local 104. http://boilermakerslocal104.org/
    I'm not quite sure what ur looking for? start pay is based on experience benefits kick in after 30 days. 100% med and dental
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    Quote Originally Posted by galencwi View Post
    You get rated usually after u interview and weld test. In the Portland yard starting pay is $18-$21 top end is close to $32 now. Some guys start in the middle of the pay range or closer to the top its all up to you and how hard u wk.
    Dont give up! Give it a try, they have an apprenticeship program in Seattle thru the Boilermakers Local 104. http://boilermakerslocal104.org/
    I'm not quite sure what ur looking for? start pay is based on experience benefits kick in after 30 days. 100% med and dental
    I'll check out boilermakers. Looking for somewhere to get my foot in the door. Finishing up my first quarter if school, so my skills are nowhere near capable yet

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    right ok i getcha now. no biggie lots of new guys or guys from other crafts start off at firewatch or associate level 1 or 2 and get working and train on their breaks on scrap metal and in the training center on their own time. It's going to be super busy by the end of the month. you could get your feet wet for sure lol
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    Hey everyone I'll be posting pics soon. I got grinding dust in my phone and its been on the fritz since.
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    LOL I just saw this pic on another site and I have to post it.
    This is what happens when you build a boat out of steel with no plans.

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    Lol his bow is crooked and his keel :\ LOL

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    Ahhh, looks like he's got wait for HIGH TIDE ! Or trim the sides a little.

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    Thanks for all the nice ship work reports.

    Okay Swabbies, now listen up!
    Let's hear your opinions on the Costa Concordia recovery operation.

    The ship is destined to be scrapped, so saving it was not an option or concern.

    But... so far about 800 million (800,000,000) US dollars, within chump change of a billion has been spent to right the ship in shallow water, near shore, at the wreck site. And it's still at the wreck site, where (supposedly) it can't be broken, so it still needs to be transported elsewhere. With that, it looks like it'll be millions more and about 2.5 years from wreck date before it's gone

    800 million, to right it!
    The was built for less than that!

    Doesn't it seem like it could have been processed on site for a fraction of that?
    With a process that would have been no more "invasive" than the righting operation was?

    If barge work wasn't workable, how much could it have cost even if semi-permanent work decks had been constructed?

    What say, Captain?

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    They should of just drained the fluids, demo'd the interior/exterior to the skeleton and left it for fish habitat

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    Perhaps there was community or political pressure to just get rid of the thing in one piece? I've seen video of recovering a sunken ship by cutting it into manageable sized bits and then lifting it onto a barge with a massive floating crane, surely that would've been a cheaper option!
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    Reclamation vs Salvage

    The Costa Concordia recovery operation in the Mediterranean is
    analogous to the BP debacle in the gulf.

    Both industries are trying to save themselves.

    BP implies a $20 Billion+ 'investment' in our physical interest.
    Their reclaimation effort is driven by - operational rights.

    Costa Crociere is a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation. Their
    motivation is driven by - operational viability.

    The Mediterranean was the Second Cradle of Western Civilization, and
    over the millennia had become a sewer.

    In addition to the 30+ killed, the ship sank in a Sea Park of protected
    coral.

    The cruise industry is dependent upon a place worth going to - so it
    will spend what ever it takes to preserve a destination that 40 years
    of recovery has preserved.

    Opus


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    galencwi

    Thanks for the good pics and better text - I worked on barges and
    ferries when I was a kid - Stanley Pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denrep View Post
    Thanks for all the nice ship work reports.

    Okay Swabbies, now listen up!
    Let's hear your opinions on the Costa Concordia recovery operation.

    The ship is destined to be scrapped, so saving it was not an option or concern.

    But... so far about 800 million (800,000,000) US dollars, within chump change of a billion has been spent to right the ship in shallow water, near shore, at the wreck site. And it's still at the wreck site, where (supposedly) it can't be broken, so it still needs to be transported elsewhere. With that, it looks like it'll be millions more and about 2.5 years from wreck date before it's gone

    800 million, to right it!
    The was built for less than that!

    Doesn't it seem like it could have been processed on site for a fraction of that?
    With a process that would have been no more "invasive" than the righting operation was?

    If barge work wasn't workable, how much could it have cost even if semi-permanent work decks had been constructed?

    What say, Captain?
    Captain Galen Here
    I have worked on a commercial salvage dive company as well as a shipyard. Salvage at least the owners and insurance can make some money back.
    The ONLY reason to spend that much money to right a ship is the environmental reasons. I do not remember the specifics of the wreck if it was inbound or outbound when it wrecked. But if a ship that size is still half full of fuel and reserves of oil for all the systems on board. The damage would go on for almost a decade WHEN that ship develops a leak. Saltwater corrosion is so severe. I'm guessing that ship had a 5/8" to 1" thick keel. Thinner than that above the waterline.
    Ive been on ships that hold 4 Million gallons of fuel, and smaller vessels that hold enough to sail 8000 miles before refueling.
    Ship that size would take years to leak all it's fuel plus all the hydraulic oils on board reserves and engine fluids, paints repair materials and greywater wastes. .......Yada Yada Yada
    They prob figured in +-1 years there would be a environmental disaster. Salinity content and waves crashing = big trouble$$$$I have a ship at the yard designed just for transporting the Concordia. Its a submersible ship that could transport it anywhere.
    Just a guess... but if they were insured by Lloyds of London they probably did the calculations and are coming out way ahead in the big picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPUS FERRO View Post
    Reclamation vs Salvage

    The Costa Concordia recovery operation in the Mediterranean is
    analogous to the BP debacle in the gulf.

    Both industries are trying to save themselves.

    BP implies a $20 Billion+ 'investment' in our physical interest.
    Their reclaimation effort is driven by - operational rights.

    Costa Crociere is a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation. Their
    motivation is driven by - operational viability.

    The Mediterranean was the Second Cradle of Western Civilization, and
    over the millennia had become a sewer.

    In addition to the 30+ killed, the ship sank in a Sea Park of protected
    coral.

    The cruise industry is dependent upon a place worth going to - so it
    will spend what ever it takes to preserve a destination that 40 years
    of recovery has preserved.

    Opus


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    galencwi

    Thanks for the good pics and better text - I worked on barges and
    ferries when I was a kid - Stanley Pool.
    All great points Stanley!. Glad you like the pics too.
    So many ships I have worked on have lead, black coal toar, zinc chromate, asbestos, and other nasty stuff that requires a full hazmat team to clean up. That stuff underwater in a area like that is so destructive.
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    The Costa Concordia is a joke, that ship could have been cut up and removed by now. The only reason to right it is to make a statement. It is the Italian government requiring it be floated away in one piece and it is a huge boon to local Italian business to do it. Yes, it is an American company in charge of the actual salvage, Crowley Maritime (which is an unusual selection since they are new in the game and a more European company like SMIT Rotterdam would normally be a first choice). But, all of the materials and labor are coming from Italy. I would call it racketeering if there wasn't some damage to the Italian economy caused by the incident but they are still definitely taking advantage of it.

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    I'd never seen this before. Those are great pics Galen. Jealous. I get to see the same four walls every day, every day, everyday........
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    Ship builders are gods compared to pipeliners....imho.....nice thread going here. Love the shipyard pics.
    BTW...I'm just kidding pipe liners...take it easy. Beers up fellas....here's to welding!!!

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    FOUR MILLION GALLONS of fuel! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a credit card bill ! I would have never came close to guessing that much. Amazing, that must take a few hours to fill. . Thanks again for the pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabee78 View Post
    Ship builders are gods compared to pipeliners....imho.
    I know several civil service Navy yard P1-welders. Some of the stories they tell about welding on the nuclear submarines are amazing to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drf255 View Post
    I'd never seen this before. Those are great pics Galen. Jealous. I get to see the same four walls every day, every day, everyday........
    Thank you. Sorry to hear about your same 4 walls everyday. Yesterday and today I was welding on a fuel tank for the Dredge Oregon. Owned by the Port of Portland. This morn I was hunched over all morning in the smallest spot. Welding the frames and stiffners to the new skin on the bilge roll between 2 frames. Once I climbed down in there my knees barley fit between 1 frame and my boots were wedged against the bulkhead. I think set a personal record for number of passes in a row I have done in such a tight spot without stopping lol I could barely see what I was doing lol. I crouched as low as I could and turned my head sideways just to see under the angles.
    We put new shell plates in for the fuel tanks. Basically the whole forward half of the barge is going to be new.
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    That would be great to hear stories about welding on submarines. I've always wanted to go on one.
    I know my company Vigor does naval work mostly out of one of our Seattle Shipyard. Aircraft carriers and Subs. I passed my navy nav-sea certs to be able to weld on current submarines. It's some of the strictest welding I have ever done. If you arc strike outside the weld zone or had any grind marks or nicks more than 3/64" its a reject. and depending on the application welds also have a height restriction for the cover passes. When I tested I wanted to say it was no more than 1/16" over the face of the plate.
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    My one son-n-law is a rigger at Bangor, he is in the crew that moves the Trident subs around. I've seen the subs go through the Hood Canal bridge, those puppies are huge!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    FOUR MILLION GALLONS of fuel! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a credit card bill ! I would have never came close to guessing that much. Amazing, that must take a few hours to fill. . Thanks again for the pics
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    2- Shafts with 23-foot Fixed-Pitch Propellers.

    The U.S.N.S. Rainier Carries that much fuel. It has been to our yard quite a few times for needed maintenance. This ship is constantly on the go serving Navy ships that are deployed. In all kinds of seas and weather.
    It is a Massive ship We had it up on drydock last summer. Our current dry dock is one of the few large enough to handle a ship this size.
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    It carries Diesel and JP5 along with food and suppliesfor the aircraft carriers and other smaller ships at sea.

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    Here's some pics of progression of repairs to a ship when they hit the drydock.

    This is a naval ship that had been in need of repairs for a long time.

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    This is a newer way of stripping the paint of the ship instead of using dry blasting or slurry=(water and blast mix to keep the paint dust out of the air for environmental safety)
    It a robot ran by 2 people The guy holding the remote control and a spotter for safety. The shell stripper works great. It's held in pace by magnets that strips the paint then vacuums it up for safe disposal. It requires 2-3 point cable tethering off the side of the ship in case it hits something and looses grip. It actually broke loose 1 time while they did this boat.

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    Our shipyard has a dedicated machine shop V-Mac that does absolutely top notch work when it comes to refinishing and reworking machinery and propellers.
    Check out the before and after of the boat propellers.
    It was mentioned that each one of those blades can run up to $1 million dollars. I have no way of knowing if that's accurate. I do know that this boat with the variable pitch propellers does well over 40+ knots.
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