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Plasma Cutter - Why do I keep breaking my ceramic cup?

12K views 25 replies 9 participants last post by  rmcelwee  
#1 ·
I purchased a China cutter off Ebay and have been using it for only a day. So far I have broken two of the ceramic cups. What am I doing wrong? I am resting the gun on the metal while I cut instead of leaving some air space (I don't have a very steady hand) and I am wondering if that is what is killing my cups. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Yes, I am a noob posting his first question. Thanks!
 
#4 ·
1) Do NOT start the arc without cutting or gouging, it shortens the nozzle and electrode life.

2) Set correct air pressure for your unit, probably between 50-70 psi.

3) Make sure your air is clean and dry. Make sure you don't have an oil lubricator in line of your air supply.

4) Maintain a 90 degree angle to work piece when cutting.

5) Sparks should pass through the work piece and out the bottom when cutting.

6) If sparks flare back from the cutting surface, this is an indication that travel speed is too fast or amperage is too low.

7) When doing extended (non-shielded) cutting, maintain an 1/8" between electrode and work piece.

8) Do NOT put pressure on drag shield when cutting. Slide shield along cutting surface for proper cutting results.

9) PULLING rather than pushing the torch makes for easier cutting.

I think a few of those should help. :)
 
#7 ·
Don't 'dry fire' the gun.
The life of the consumables is controlled by several factors. 'Starts' is one of the variables.
Most CAM software will not only give you inches of cut, but the number of 'starts'. Thats important to know for billing purposes.
'Starts' are initial piercings. If you cut a circle in one continuous cut, it will take one 'start'. Don't waste your consumables with unnecessary trigger activation.
 
#11 ·
WANNAWELD said:
Maybe this is the answer:rolleyes:
Yes, I have been chastised many times about my $200 Harbor Freight Mig and a $300 Ebay Plasma cutter. Both are 220V and are just fine for what I use them for. I would not be welding/cutting right now if I had to spend $1500 per unit so I am very thankful for the cheap units.

In any event, I cut quite a bit yesterday and didn't break any cups. I was very careful not to touch the electrode or cup to the metal and did my best to maintain a 90 degree angle.

You can see the project I am working on here:
http://www.lightweightmiata.com/trailer/trailer.htm
 
#14 ·
rmc... what model cutter did you get? I have a few myself (bought before I even had a clue) but haven't really bothered to use them. Did you cut that whole body with just your plasma?
If it did that I say I break them out of their boxes and start using them.
 
#15 ·
yellow said:
rmc... what model cutter did you get? I have a few myself (bought before I even had a clue) but haven't really bothered to use them. Did you cut that whole body with just your plasma?
If it did that I say I break them out of their boxes and start using them.
You can find the cheap plasma on ebay under "rattler". No, I cut the car with a recip saw a few days before I bought the plasma :(
 
#18 ·
rmcelwee said:
Yes, I have been chastised many times about my $200 Harbor Freight Mig and a $300 Ebay Plasma cutter. Both are 220V and are just fine for what I use them for. I would not be welding/cutting right now if I had to spend $1500 per unit so I am very thankful for the cheap units.

In any event, I cut quite a bit yesterday and didn't break any cups. I was very careful not to touch the electrode or cup to the metal and did my best to maintain a 90 degree angle.

You can see the project I am working on here:
http://www.lightweightmiata.com/trailer/trailer.htm

Do you have a metal attachment that keeps the head off the work, and also doubles for a guide, that you can clamp a straight edge onto the work and just ride along the straight edge?

I don not know what they are called. But on the ESAB it looks like one inch, of one inch metal tube with the tube notched out so you can see in and to let out any pressure as you start. It keeps the tip off the work, and as I said it is also a guide. You can make wooden templates to cut wild shapes, you just have to allow for the half inch difference in the cut and the guide device.

Sincerely,



William McCormick
 
#22 ·
yellow said:
I never was able to find the cutter you have. The seller no longer has any listed. Was it one of the Cut(30/40/50) series cutters?

I have a Cut40 and Cut50 but like I said I have never used either.
I see 12 of them currently on auction. I may have confused you on the search. Just type "rattler plasma" in the search box.
 
#25 ·
The chinese units are very non forgiving.. I don't have a steady enough hand to use it. My TD doesn't care how you use it. It just likes to cut :).. I am building a nice jig for the chinese unit though. Maybe I can atleast salvage it for something.
 
#26 ·
Jeep07 said:
The chinese units are very non forgiving.. I don't have a steady enough hand to use it. My TD doesn't care how you use it. It just likes to cut :).. I am building a nice jig for the chinese unit though. Maybe I can atleast salvage it for something.
Show us a picture of it when you are finished!