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    This happened to my business partner last night- small rubbermaid shed caught on fire, only thing in the shed was a weedwacker and garden tools. 102˚ temps outside.

    I post this up because he tried his garden hose to no avail but a small abc fire extinguisher that he had just purchased knocked down the 15' flames instantly.

    Just a reminder to make sure you have Fire Extinguishers around your shop and house.

    The shed sat under the eave of the house and if he didn't have that little FE the house was next!!.

    One outside your shop so that if a fire starts while yer outside of it you have the FE to attack the flames.
    One inside yer shop so you have one available while working inside the shop.
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    Re: Fire Safety/ Fire extinguishers

    If you don't mind I would add, knowing the proper way to use a fire extinguisher makes a big difference too.

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    Both true. The most valuable tool you'll hopefully never have to use. We have them en masse at the ranch for obvious reasons with 86 acres that backs onto the national forest! Both chemical and CO2. Two other important things are 1) to have the right type for the most probable fire type and 2) to make sure they're not expired. First Alert makes one specifically for the shop; the FE10GO and they're rechargable. They're specific to flammable liquids and electrical fires.

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    Having been in a situation where I needed a fire extinguisher and didn't have immediate access to one, I know what that can be like. Luckily for me I managed to get it under control and out before the fire department arrived and I lost the vehicle and contents. After that point I doubled all mine.
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    One mounted on the welding table leg and at least one on every door jamb in the shop.
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    And make sure you buy from a reputable dealer. Apparently the Chicomms are making forgeries of legitimate, approved extinguishers and they are being sold cheaply on the internet. We got an alert/newsletter about it a few months back at the firehouse.
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    Re: Fire Safety/ Fire extinguishers

    Good advice and a welcome reminder.
    I have quite a few fire extinguishers around and they have been needed more than once. I live 12 miles from the nearest fire truck and having the FEs within reach kept a small problem from becoming a very big one.

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    Some people would laugh if they saw all the extinguishers I have. 2.5 gallon water cans x3, a big halon, a smaller halon, 30lb dry chem and a few smaller 2-10 pound dry chems.

    If you know how to use them, 2.5 gallon water extinguishers can put out a hell of a fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD955SC View Post
    And make sure you buy from a reputable dealer. Apparently the Chicomms are making forgeries of legitimate, approved extinguishers and they are being sold cheaply on the internet. We got an alert/newsletter about it a few months back at the firehouse.
    Reputable xtinguishers can fail as well. I had a cheapo throw away work just fine. My $200 xtinguisher failed on me tho. I was prepaired with a shovel as I knew I would start a fire cutting pipe.
    When I took the $200 xtinguisher back under warranty, the refill place was dumbfounded. They said, "it may have failed due to condensation and laying on its side in my truck" . They recharged it but I dont fully trust it. A shovel and garden hose if available are my goto fire fighters.

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    Did you properly maintain that extinguisher? You have to take a rubber mallet, turn the extinguisher upside down, and smack it a few times to break up the clumps in the powder where it has settled. Do this about once a month. Your refill place sounded like they didn't know what they were talking about, I've got plenty of external extinguishers mounted vertically and horizontally on my equipment at work in an extremely humid environment. It's just the simple fact the powder settles and clumps up unless you come along and smack it with a mallet once in a while.

    If you are faced with a non working extinguisher thats just shooting its gas charge off try slamming the base into the ground a couple of times to see if it'll break the clumps up enough to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post



    This happened to my business partner last night- small rubbermaid shed caught on fire, only thing in the shed was a weedwacker and garden tools. 102˚ temps outside.

    I post this up because he tried his garden hose to no avail but a small abc fire extinguisher that he had just purchased knocked down the 15' flames instantly.

    Just a reminder to make sure you have Fire Extinguishers around your shop and house.

    The shed sat under the eave of the house and if he didn't have that little FE the house was next!!.

    One outside your shop so that if a fire starts while yer outside of it you have the FE to attack the flames.
    One inside yer shop so you have one available while working inside the shop.
    Have they figured out what the cause was yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD955SC View Post
    Did you properly maintain that extinguisher? You have to take a rubber mallet, turn the extinguisher upside down, and smack it a few times to break up the clumps in the powder where it has settled. Do this about once a month. Your refill place sounded like they didn't know what they were talking about, I've got plenty of external extinguishers mounted vertically and horizontally on my equipment at work in an extremely humid environment. It's just the simple fact the powder settles and clumps up unless you come along and smack it with a mallet once in a while.

    If you are faced with a non working extinguisher thats just shooting its gas charge off try slamming the base into the ground a couple of times to see if it'll break the clumps up enough to work.
    Agreed on the shaking. I'm a construction superintendent. And I inspect all FE on my site monthly. I visually check the gauge and then turn them upside down a few times to loosen up the powder. Then do a final check on the gauge. I also initial and mark the date on the side of the FE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WyoRoy View Post
    One mounted on the welding table leg and at least one on every door jamb in the shop.
    how did you mount that blacksmith vice on your bench to be rotatable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD955SC View Post
    Did you properly maintain that extinguisher? You have to take a rubber mallet, turn the extinguisher upside down, and smack it a few times to break up the clumps in the powder where it has settled. Do this about once a month. Your refill place sounded like they didn't know what they were talking about, I've got plenty of external extinguishers mounted vertically and horizontally on my equipment at work in an extremely humid environment. It's just the simple fact the powder settles and clumps up unless you come along and smack it with a mallet once in a while.

    If you are faced with a non working extinguisher thats just shooting its gas charge off try slamming the base into the ground a couple of times to see if it'll break the clumps up enough to work.
    Thanks for that. My feer of faulty fire xtingishers is over now. Im gonna sign off and go beat some fire xtingishers now. Also, you were xactly right, there was clumps. The kid took it apart thinking it had a metal draw tube but it was already a plastic tube. I guess plastic can also condensate. The thing is, it was bouncing around behind my seat laying on its side so, that shoulda busted up the clumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaneride View Post
    The thing is, it was bouncing around behind my seat laying on its side so, that shoulda busted up the clumps
    That bouncing around may have just contributed to compacting the powder more, if it is only laying on one side and not being rolled over so the stuff can fall to the other side of the cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    Have they figured out what the cause was yet?
    Not exactly and I don't think they will try and pinpoint it since no one was injured or killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dumb as a stump View Post
    how did you mount that blacksmith vice on your bench to be rotatable?
    I think that is just one Post Vise clamped by a 2nd one at an angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    I think that is just one Post Vise clamped by a 2nd one at an angle.
    That's the deal. The larger post vise went out to a young guy in California that has 4H kids come over to his shop to learn. Couldn't think of a better use for it myself. Still have a few extra post vises laying in the project pile rack as trade goods/projects for new shop down the road. Milled up a plate welded to a receiver hitch tube to mount the smaller vise.
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    I keep an air/water and a CO2 extinguisher.
    The air/water unit is easy to take care of, check the gauge for 100psi, make sure its heavy and keep it from freezing. So easy to use and recharge its almost a toy.
    The CO2 extinguisher you just make sure you can feel liquid CO2 sloshing around inside nice thing about it is you can put out the fire and there is nothing to clean up from using the fire extinguisher. When its time to recharge them it takes about 15 minutes and $20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad welder 4 View Post
    I keep an air/water and a CO2 extinguisher.
    The air/water unit is easy to take care of, check the gauge for 100psi, make sure its heavy and keep it from freezing. So easy to use and recharge its almost a toy.
    The water cans are fun to play around with.
    The CO2 extinguisher you just make sure you can feel liquid CO2 sloshing around inside nice thing about it is you can put out the fire and there is nothing to clean up from using the fire extinguisher. When its time to recharge them it takes about 15 minutes and $20.
    And you can use the CO2 extinguisher to chill down beer in a hurry.
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    The great thing about the 2.5 gallon water cans is if you know what you are doing, you can either put out, or at least contain a fire until the FD gets there. There's a reason those are still on fire trucks til this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmat5760 View Post
    The great thing about the 2.5 gallon water cans is if you know what you are doing, you can either put out, or at least contain a fire until the FD gets there. There's a reason those are still on fire trucks til this day.
    I had no idea fire trucks still carried them.
    I should add my air/water squirt can came from the scrap yard off the stainless pile, at 50 cents a pound I might have paid $4 for it.
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    I had no idea fire trucks still carried them.
    Yep and it may be a specific requirement for an engine to carry a water can, too. I can't recall. I know that by NFPA standards a certain amount and types of extinguishers are required on fire apparatus...but since it's been a couple of years I don't recall exactly what those standards require.
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    Heh... We have air/water units on the work trucks at my job, not a one is pressurized, and a few are bone dry.
    In their current state, just a waste of space.(once I get my own truck mine will be filled)

    Side note, they are also popular with graffiti crews. They spray paint just as well as water, and with the right tip, you can spray 2 story letters on a building.

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