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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    Very nice job Duane!!
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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    Wow!
    Moving right along!
    You will definitely have this done way ahead of mine!

    Looks really good Duane!
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    A quick update before I head out for some fuel line and fresh oil.

    Did this this morning:

    Blasted and ready for primer. . .
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    . . .primer applied. . .
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    . . .and then some of that red stuff. Didn't paint the cooling fins for better heat dissipation.
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    Stand by for this afternoon. . .
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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    . . .that went like this:

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    Front view with new outlet plugs.
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    Need to pick up a couple machine screws for the fuel tank straps while I'm out too. Should be making noise in an hour or two and hopefully power shortly after that.

    BTW - if you haven't guessed yet, the Back Ordered part is the cylinder head cover which the original is pretty badly rusted and why it's not painted.

    As always - thanks for looking.
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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    "That's right - I actually BOUGHT a Lincoln. No freebe here and it's really a basket case. I'm considering this a 'rescue mission' and it's going to take a whole lot of TLC to keep it from remaining a pile of scrap metal."


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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    Duane's been a busy boy today.
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    She lives but she leaks. Or maybe she's just crying because she's running again.

    Crank seal on the rotor side leaks and either it does because it hardened up from sitting so long or the oil traces dried up from it sitting so long and I missed any signs when it was apart. Not hard to change - just a pain in the neck. It seemed to be letting up as it ran longer but I don't hold out much hope it'll stop on its own. Lesson of the day - if you split it, seal it.

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    . . .and AFTER
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZOC1_VcRY[/ame]


    I didn't paint the support frame as I plan on building a running gear for it because there's no other easy way to move it right now other than the lifting eye.
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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    Hey Duane, the meter action in the video was a little quick for my fuzzy eyes. What were you showing us there? A load on the AC side and DC side at the same time?

    That red paint kinda left my eyes burned a little I think.

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    Sorry about that Sandy. I was running the show by myself and didn't want it to run too long.

    The first meter shot was the AC output voltage and then frequency under ~3000watt load.

    Second meter was the welding output open circuit voltage (AC only). Machine is rated for a maximum OCV of 75v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    Sorry about that Sandy. I was running the show by myself and didn't want it to run too long.

    The first meter shot was the AC output voltage and then frequency under ~3000watt load.

    Second meter was the welding output open circuit voltage (AC only). Machine is rated for a maximum OCV of 75v.
    Hey thanks Duane. I tried like crazy to zoom in on the VOM to see what it was set on and just couldn't see it.

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    I like what you guys do with these rebuilds of some of these older machines mostly because I don't have the focus to do one of my own. I know where there is an old lincoln of some sort laying on its nose in a guys shop. Real small, maybe 125 amps or so. He's offered it to me twice. The intake is off and it's all packed full by mud dobbers. I can imagine what the rest is like. I say "thanks but no". I've got two welders now and projects unfinished. Don't need another.

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    And another good example of one mans trash is another mans treasure!
    And a very good example of my motto!

    Even though she leeks, that motor sure sounds good Duane!

    I hope mine turns out even half as good as yours has.
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    Great Job! Now we need to see how it welds!
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    Welder, mechanic, writer ,director, camera man, lighting tech, jeesh.

    Maybe there is hope for me, I have a screwdriver just like Duane's.
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    Great job, Duanne! Your an inspiration to weldors everywhere.
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    Re: Hey farmersamm - I Bought A Lincoln!

    Lately it occurs to me...
    "What a long strange trip it's been."

    Nice work Duaneb55, Congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Dennis View Post
    Even though she leeks, that motor sure sounds good Duane!
    No smoke too and it started just like that on the first pull the first time after hooking up the fuel tank and gassing it up.
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    I hope mine turns out even half as good as yours has.
    From what I've seen so far I'm confident it will turn out even better.



    Quote Originally Posted by delwelds View Post
    Great Job! Now we need to see how it welds!
    . . .and with all the welding leads I've got not one of them has an eyelet to hook up to the outlet studs. Need to make some adapters like 7A749 uses and recommended a while back.



    Quote Originally Posted by Magnetic Mechanic View Post
    Welder, mechanic, writer ,director, camera man, lighting tech, jeesh.

    Maybe there is hope for me, I have a screwdriver just like Duane's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gizzardgutz View Post
    Great job, Duanne! Your an inspiration to weldors everywhere.
    Thanks gg. I'll have to keep this thing forever because I don't think I'd ever get what I've got in it if I tried to sell it.



    Quote Originally Posted by denrep View Post
    Lately it occurs to me...
    "What a long strange trip it's been."

    Nice work Duaneb55, Congrats!
    I've been thinking the same thing denrep - and all for an AC only machine.

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    Very nice Duane, I'm trying to figure out where you get the time. Between the husband thing, father thing, and full time work thing,I cant get those high hour projects done! I would have to have a clone to get it done.
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    NICE restore, I have a question..I see that you did not paint the rusted coils any reason for that? wouldnt some type of anti rust coating or paint help stop that rust from going any further?..thanxs for any info

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    Thanks roadkillbobb.

    As for the no paint it's a heat dissapation issue. When new, the stator, rotor - and in the case of this welder the reactor - are all dipped in a coating that provides corrosion protection, added electrical insulation and because of its dull/matte finish a degree of heat dissapation. Much debate and tests have been done regarding the best color for heat dissapation but everything points to a dull/matte finish means more than color in this case unlike visual wavelengths where black is considered the best heat emitter because it's also the best obsorber.

    IMO because of the present state of corrosion it's best to clean it as best as can be done and leave it at that. Any attempt to paint it for any corrosion protection at this point would most likely result in a hinderance to the more critical heat dissapation - again IMO. I spent probably 20-30 minutes just dislodging the flaking coating from inside all the fins that would otherwise reduce free air flow thru them and if painted would have just made matters worse. Hence they remainied as they are after a thorough cleaning. Others may think differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castweld View Post
    Very nice Duane, I'm trying to figure out where you get the time. Between the husband thing, father thing, and full time work thing,I cant get those high hour projects done! I would have to have a clone to get it done.
    Peter
    Thanks Peter. I know what you mean although only one of our four kids ('Brink') remain at home and he pretty much does his own thing anyhow with college, summer job and all. Nevertheless, Judy reminds me from time to time that there are other things that need to get done too.

    Here's the next one waiting in line - a 36kw natural gas unit that went under during Ike that will hopefully become my main stand-by unit. Check out the zoomie headers on the small block Chevy.
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    Now I've gone and hi-jacked my own thread!
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    "Now I've gone and hi-jacked my own thread!"

    Hi-jacked or not, that's a project that needs doin'! "For use in dry weather protected locations only" Better ship it to NM, Orange Texas doesn't qualify!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duaneb55 View Post
    Thanks roadkillbobb.

    As for the no paint it's a heat dissapation issue. When new, the stator, rotor - and in the case of this welder the reactor - are all dipped in a coating that provides corrosion protection, added electrical insulation and because of its dull/matte finish a degree of heat dissapation. Much debate and tests have been done regarding the best color for heat dissapation but everything points to a dull/matte finish means more than color in this case unlike visual wavelengths where black is considered the best heat emitter because it's also the best obsorber.

    IMO because of the present state of corrosion it's best to clean it as best as can be done and leave it at that. Any attempt to paint it for any corrosion protection at this point would most likely result in a hinderance to the more critical heat dissapation - again IMO. I spent probably 20-30 minutes just dislodging the flaking coating from inside all the fins that would otherwise reduce free air flow thru them and if painted would have just made matters worse. Hence they remainied as they are after a thorough cleaning. Others may think differently.
    great info, now that brings me to another question or 2,the eastwood company has several rust dissolvers not coatings, that actually clean the rust off, would that open a box of worms with possible shorts in the coils, and when you wash the inside of the welders do you actually spray the coils with water and cleaning solution or just air, again could that lead to a possable shorting problem even though they are dried back out? would a coating of a dry lube like ezox thats used on firearms help contain futue rust? thankyou, as I have several projects going that all contain lottsa rust..

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    Nice job, if my SA 200 comes out that nice I will be definitely be happy!
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    Good question Bob. You'd have to look into how it might react (remove) any winding wire insulation coating but if it's formulated to attack iron oxidation it may be safe for insulation coatings.

    I use a moderate pressure with the pressure washer, blow and then air dry. Salt water contaminsted units get a number of hot water soaks as well. With no electricity present, washing motor/generator parts is not a concern due to their insulation. If washing causes any damage there was already a problem in the form of compromised insulation to begin with.

    The dry lube idea would probably do the trick to prevent further corrosion but I think I'll try the electrolysis rust removal method SWells and others have used http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=24293 on a bad stator I have (salt water contamination that broke down the winding wire insulation resulting in some serious fireworks) and see how the insulation reacts. A large sonic cleaner like Jay Leno has with the recommended rust removal solution would work great too but my little 11"x6"x6" unit just isn't big enough for the job.
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