Miller did it. They really really did it. Dynasty280

[shovelon]

They just announced the rollout.
I will have to save my pennys. I will take 3 phase please!

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00389

http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/spec_sheets/AD4-9.pdf

[SquirmyPug]

I'm glad I haven't bought a 200dx yet, i think the 280 might have a place to stay in my shop

[TozziWelding]

Yes please.......I like it.

[Gamble]

That's a lot of money

[CEP]

That's a lot of money

Naw, I paid $9,378.00 for this in 1982. You gotta spend money to make money!

[Seiler]

And I just purchased my 200DX 2 weeks ago. Dang.

[kidtigger24]

Very nice.

Doesn't look any bigger then a 200DX.

Doesn't do 120 volt input, but who cares. I never use 120 on my 200DX.

Excellent choice.

I'm actually a little jealous.

Just kidding. Good Luck


kidtigger24

[MinnesotaDave]

Pretty dang cool. The price doesn't seem too outrageous.

Dave J.

[zank]

I'm glad I haven't bought a 200dx yet, i think the 280 might have a place to stay in my shop

I'm in the same boat. Been dragging my feet. It'll be interesting to see what the street price is. I'm hoping the 280DX machine alone will be at $4300-$4400 from places like cyberweld.

[soutthpaw]

hope this will push the price of the ESAB 281i down too!

[grumpycricket]

Bout time! Tested one last year ... loved it!

[SquirmyPug]

Five grand+ for the DX model.

Just put a little more with it & buy the 350

IMHO of course

I want both, 280 and 350 maybe even a 200 If I can only have one, I think I would rather have the 280. The 280 is 83LBS lighter, only 52LBS for the machine. That's means it is still easily portable, that's something I really like. If I wanted a machine that would never leave the shop I would want the 350(700 would be nice too), but the extra amps would be rarely used so keeping it portable would be better. Plus..even if I got a 350 I would keep my Airco, I can get all the amps I need from it just not all the fancy settings.

[Oscar]

Dang, I have no need for such a beast, but I'm drooling

[Mr. Moose]

Depending on the price point, the 280DX may be a good option for those thinking about a 200DX. Miller has stripped out the most important features of the 350DX though, and with comparison to the 350DX, a machine built with twice the weight, you can draw your own conclusions as to which machine the 280DX most compares. If you need portable, that's a real consideration, but don't think you're getting a lighter, reduced output 350DX.

[Drf255]

That's a lot of Do Re Me.

Wonder what the online price will be?

Also wonder if there will be a glut of used 200's on the market soon.

[Donoharm]

well.. isn't that cute...

INVERTIG.PRO DIGITAL 450 AC/DC TIG SET

Only 31 kg in weight!
A massive 450 amps @ 100% Duty Cycle - Weld all day!
High Frequency Pulsing up to 3000 Hz

Advanced Inverter Power Source

Output current: 3 - 450 Amps
Duty cycle: 450 Amps @ 100 % (40°C)
Input voltage: 400 V / 3 phase
Fuse Rating: 32 Amp
Weight: 31 kg
Size [mm]: 520x360x460

http://www.rehm.co.uk/invertig.pro-digital.html

[zank]

Depending on the price point, the 280DX may be a good option for those thinking about a 200DX. Miller has stripped out the most important features of the 350DX though, and with comparison to the 350DX, a machine built with twice the weight, you can draw your own conclusions as to which machine the 280DX most compares. If you need portable, that's a real consideration, but don't think you're getting a lighter, reduced output 350DX.

Looking at the specs of the 280DX, the only things missing compared to the 350 are independent amplitude adjustment on AC and being able to save some programs. They tightened up the balance to 50-99% EN and topped out the DC pulse frequency at 500, but the other adjustment ranges look comparable. Are there other features (aside from amps/duty cycle) on the 350 that I'm missing that are not in the 280DX?

[shovelon]

Look carefully at the standard model. This is the magical "EZ" model that takes the gueswork out of setup. You can download and diagnose through your smartphone. You can contact Miller techsupport and they can view your weld parameters. This is really tig and stick for "dummys".

[soutthpaw]

Careful Steve, you are about to be mobbed by Smurfs (little blue fanboys) the real area for competition here is the likes of ESAB, HTP etc who can make a similar machine of equal quality for $1000-$1500 less. Not sure about Thermal Arc anymore. Seems they decided to compete for the Chicom market instead of the red and blue one.

Sent w/ Tapatalk using Swype, pls excuse typos

[shovelon]

If it was about $1500 or so cheaper, I would go out & buy one this week.

The 200 is "affordable" but for three grand +, I want more amps. The portability is where I really see the 280 filling the need for on site guys who need a bigger machine than the 200 DX, but around the same size & weight.

Yeah, it's really cool. Just too expensive for this guy.

After you buy one & test it out, you can sell it to me cheap....

If there's anything left of it

You know it is the only I don't have yet. It will round out my collection. Remember I have a Dynasty350 you can have for free!

[shovelon]

Well Steve, my little Dynasty200 is 4 years old now. It gets used on average of 20hrs/week. That means I have done $32000 worth of biz with it. At 4 time cost for ROI, it was paid for in 2 years in theory. At the time I bought it I had a batch of field jobs that requiered use of housecurrent for power or a generator. At $100/hr, the ROI was taken care of in short order.

My Dynasty350s get rode hard AC @ 350 amps output 30 hours a week. These machines are the workhorse of my shop. I came to find out they last longer the more consistently you use them. My last Dynasty350 "ChiComed" at 8000 hours. I climbed down off my pile of cash and rang up my LWS and ordered a frivolity, a Dynasty700.

[shovelon]

LMAO! Pile of cash.....

Yeah, as I was saying earlier, for a guy like you, it's a no brainer. You use them & you make lots of money with them. Of course, to make money, you gotta spend it too.

For a guy like me, I just couldn't justify the cost for how little I would use it. I hardly use my S'Wave as it is.

It looks really sweet. If it was priced a little less, I would prolly own one. Like I was saying earlier with the Dynasty 200, it's a great little machine, but for that kind of money, I want more amps.

If there comes a day I need one for work, ill buy one. Right now it just isn't a need & most all the welding I do in the field is DC TIG, flux core or stick. I've got a spool gun for the occasional field repair on heavy AL.

Ahhh, but if you did buy one, you would use it more. Dynastys are the crack cocaine of welders.

[Brand X]

Not sure, but it looks like a ten year old Thermal-arc with a bit more wave programing. Nothing new to look at here. Probably will weld as nice as a the older Thermal using the soft sq wave setting.

[Silicon-based]

Well, I like my 300GTSW but it's on its last legs and the Dynasty 280's looking pretty good right now. Half the current draw too, which is more important to me than the waveforms. It would also be a better color match for the Coolmate 3 that the Thermal Arc is sitting on now.

Also considering the HTP221 because it will run on 120V and has more amps (on 240) than any other such machine. Decisions, decisions...

John

[kidtigger24]

Careful Steve, you are about to be mobbed by Smurfs (little blue fanboys)

That's what us Miller fans are called? I love it.


kidtigger24