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Miller Thunderbolt 225 $20

6.8K views 17 replies 10 participants last post by  drujinin  
#1 ·
Just got this today for $20. I figured it was a cheap way to get into welding. I couldn't find anything on Google about it, so I came here for some advice. The cables that plug into the front seem to be in ok condition, but the power cable is pretty dry rotted. The case outside is pretty rusted.

I want to see if it worth trying to fix it up and learn on but don't know where to start. Any suggestions would be very helpful. Many thanks in advance. Pics attached below

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#3 ·
Tbolts are nice machines. $20 is a steal for an AC stick welder. Those old transformer stick machines are tanks. Not much to really go wrong with them except maybe the switch. I'd replace and bad cables, open up the cover and blow it out and make sure there are no mouse nests inside or chewed wires and you should be good to go.

AC stick machines occasionally get a bad rap. True they aren't as smooth as DC capable units, but they are inexpensive and will take care of what the average hobbyist usually needs to do, At worst, you can always find someone who will buy it later for what you paid for it, if not more in your case, if you later want to upgrade.

7014 would be a good choice in rods to use on it. They are easy to use and run quite well on AC. 6011 would be another good choice, They don't make as pretty a weld as 7014 does and some have a bit more trouble picking up the knack to running them. 6013 is also another good choice, though some have a bit more issues running them than they do with 7014.


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#5 ·
I started out 44 years ago with an Airco version made by Miller. You have a stout machine that will do almost anything you need. Check around for an 8/3 power cable and a NEMA 6-50 plug. You can go longer than the factory cord. BTW, your photo links don't work.
 
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A New Joisey guy! I worked in Sommerville and Boonton for years. Lived in Sparta and Freedon mostly, but did a stint in Peapack-Gladstone. . Familiar with Morristown.
 
#12 ·
I had one exactly like that - kind of noisy but worked excellent.

Run a 50 amp wire and breaker - very standard stuff.
 
#14 ·
Either would work. Since we are only talking 3' I'd just go with 6-3 since the additional cost is negligible.
 
#17 ·
I'm running an 80s thunderbolt AC/DC on a 50amp breaker, made a new chord for it that's about 20 ft long, I actually just ran it almost non stop last night at 130-150amps burning 1/2" plate for about 4 hours, it didn't care at all! I've run it for 10 hrs straight before with about 10 min break every hour with no issues, almost nothing has gone wrong with it for the past 15 years!

Like everyone already said, you've got yourself an old work horse! $25 is a great deal.
 
#18 ·
Copper Wound will probably run smoother than its later Aluminum wound cousins.
Rub the green corrosion off from the plug blades before plugging it into your newly installed outlet!
This will prevent corrosion hotspots.
Nice Machine for $20!