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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    That's more like what I meant - if it makes the job more enjoyable, I'm all in.

    But I have die grinders, burr bits, and dremels already - a skinny power file would be great - but my personal goal is to make do with what I've got until I've got enough pieces to do a local craft fair - then I'll allow myself to look at more tools.
    And we will be here. Ready and eager to help spend your hard earned money.

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    And we will be here. Ready and eager to help spend your hard earned money.

    No thanks needed. That's what we do....


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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    I've got the HF pneumatic sander, I think I'm good, but you never know? My son is not shy about me getting another tool.
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    Yeah...the missus just LOVES you guys...
    Hmm, that's pretty scary.
    Please show her how to message us for best results. Christmas is coming and we'll guide her into buying wisely for you.


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    You were saying you were short on space for a compressor. How would she feel about a 2 stage upright in the bedroom closet? We can pipe the air outside... Hmmmm.... or how about a horizontal lag screwed to the roof? There's lots of room up there.... we could build a metal shroud around it to look like central AC....
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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    You were saying you were short on space for a compressor. How would she feel about a 2 stage upright in the bedroom closet? We can pipe the air outside... Hmmmm.... or how about a horizontal lag screwed to the roof? There's lots of room up there.... we could build a metal shroud around it to look like central AC....
    Just when i thought I didn't have space for a big air compressor, you gave me ideas, thanks.
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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    You were saying you were short on space for a compressor. How would she feel about a 2 stage upright in the bedroom closet? We can pipe the air outside... Hmmmm.... or how about a horizontal lag screwed to the roof? There's lots of room up there.... we could build a metal shroud around it to look like central AC....
    Donít laugh. All our refrigeration compressors were roof mounted. Worked really well having them out of the way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Need Advice View Post
    Just when i thought I didn't have space for a big air compressor, you gave me ideas, thanks.
    You can also go horizontal and mount above roof rafters, depending on your roof.


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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

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    I don't think I need more tools...
    Scorching-hot sun in a land filled with spiders big enough to eat your face off.... well, it's sure to lead to some mental trauma.

    One always needs more tools. You might not use them, but that's no excuse to not buy them.

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    One always needs more tools. You might not use them, but that's no excuse to not buy them.
    Because....................you never know when you might need them!!!!

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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    I found these videos on how to achieve cleaner forgings. If there are any noobs out there like me they may find it helpful.


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    Another Christmas gift - re-shaped and lengthened an axe head, it'll be a women's skirt in the piece.

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    The man is a pair of 90deg long needle nose pliers.
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    Great imagination! A woman from an axe (not even a battle axe...) ... there's got to be some kind of poetic justice in there somewhere...
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    Very nice, Shootr. I was wondering where you were going with it.

    Any chance you're going to curl the tong reins around her back to make it more "hug" like?

    Love the way you made the guy's feet. Very slick thinking!

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    I saw something similar on Pinterest so this is my interpretation of the theme. Yes, once I tack the man to the base, then I'll shorten and bend the arms into a tighter hug. She will be tacked to the arms so it looks like he is sweeping her off her feet (which will be dainty little shaped wire coming out of the hem of the skirt.) Then there will be large ball bearings on top of each to make the heads. Finally, a smaller loop made of thinner rod for her arms going around his "neck".
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    Nice work on the couple

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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

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    Another Christmas gift - re-shaped and lengthened an axe head, it'll be a women's skirt in the piece.

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    The man is a pair of 90deg long needle nose pliers.
    Ingenious sexy lines


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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Hailing from England, Mark had the opportunity to attend formal education in a long line of blacksmiths, something that isn't really available on this side of the pond. The ABANA "national curriculum" is a good attempt to bring some kind of standardized testing to the blacksmith community, but it also gets tremendous pushback every time someone suggests that maybe it should be formalized much like the Bladesmith Society does with their Journeyman and Master stamps.



    The benefit of doing something that's more structured is that it gives everyone involved a baseline that they can talk about and measure. If you're having problems with your water leaves, I can relate and share my experiences. However, if you're having trouble "making leaves" that really doesn't tell me anything because.... there are a billion different types of leaves and no metric to measure your own work by unless you decide to draw up a blueprint of some kind. This is great for the individual ego because nobody can say that you did wrong since there's no benchmark to measure it by. Not that I'd ever succumb to such things, mind you.

    I think Dave Carroll explains it best in his video on making the ABANA Grille. It's a tough process, but every step along the way is a learning process. You learn how to cut, measure, make tools and forms.... on and on and on. The quality of your finished piece is determined by how much work you put into it, and how much you rejected, as Dave shows, so only the best pieces go into the finished Grille.



    I like free-form designs because they don't force me to work to a pattern. I hate few things in life more than trying to get a square corner lined up with the center-punch mark, for example, because the blasted corners never line up with where they're supposed to be. When you're working to a print, like with the ABANA Grille Project, even being an eighth of an inch off in one tiny portion will throw the entire Grille out of whack.

    Something to ponder on.

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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Here's the blueprint for the CBA/ABANA Level 1 test piece.



    An example forged by Mark Aspery.



    The blueprint is kind of fun because they left out some measurements that would have made things a lot simpler. Looks like they're trying to force the prospective student to think outside the box, do some math, and explore options.

    I don't know how tight they expect you to stay to the prints, but I'd be something of a stickler since they went through all that trouble to produce something that's accurate down to the sixteenth of an inch.

    I'll have to see if I have any of the right bar in stock. I think I might, but I might not.

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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Always forget to get a "before" pic...

    Little bit of metal bending today. Super thick wall pipe that I wanted the bottoms to be rounded in. Lots of kerfs and worked well.

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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    If you want to close those off like a bull nose, use the pipefitters method for an "orange peel". Google, there are several good descriptions on how to make them. The more segments you make, the smoother the curve when closed up. I don't have one, but the pipefitter's handbook probably has the method in it.

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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Always forget to get a "before" pic...

    Little bit of metal bending today. Super thick wall pipe that I wanted the bottoms to be rounded in. Lots of kerfs and worked well.

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    Should be finished tomorrow.
    If you want a rounded bottom, maybe consider buying a welding cap.
    Another option would be to make a dishing stump. There commonly used for making bowls.
    It depends on what your making and the preferred look.


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    Re: Blacksmithing and forging

    Forging steel that thick is going to be a chore no matter what! The biggest problem will be the steel getting over-cooked because you're having to go in and out of the fire so often. You'll get it shaped, sure, but the surface will like really chewed up by the time you do.

    A weld-on cap would be a good solution, but it all depends on how much different in material thickness you're wiling to tolerate for your design. It wouldn't be any problem to blend the weld and overall surface texture, but the weight difference could cause rocking issues or the like.

    If you have more of that steel, you could also consider making orange peels and welding them into place. Shape a little bit, then texture the whole thing to blend seamlessly....

    No matter which way you go, I'm seeing a lot of work in your future!

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    What's in the pic is as far as I needed to go. Just enough to soften it up so it doesn't look like a pipe anymore.
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    The end product looks great and that's what matters.

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