The Religious Thread Is God great? Has science burried God? A respecful debate thread

[smithdoor]

The debate is over on day you are first wave going into battle.

Dave

PS
Everyone is now believing in God.
The first wave is alway converted on that day.

Amen, too bad a couple hundred million other americans cant figure that out

[123weld]

The debate is over on day you are first wave going into battle.

Dave

PS
Everyone is now believing in God.
The first wave is alway converted on that day.

i wasnt referring to anything religous, and i dont think i understand what ur saying. my only point was, too bad people cant go back the way we were pre social media

[smithdoor]

I agree
I remember the days of hand shake contracts.
Now you better have 50 page contract 😒.

Yes churches ⛪ have there place too.

Dave

i wasnt referring to anything religous, and i dont think i understand what ur saying. my only point was, too bad people cant go back the way we were pre social media

[Gar]

[jonesg]

legitimate science has no voice on questions of spiritual matters,
whilst dawkins writes sloppy pop science books for teenage pimply faced kids who are failing emotional puberty to compensate their fear with scientific pretensions.
Science and God are different magistaria, we might as well inquire as to the square root of pork chops, so the question dissolves into its own silliness.

The premise of seeking objective proof for the highly subjective spiritual matter is more indicative of the ignorance of those seeking proof of God whilst conveniently ignoring the profound evidence.

whilst the first sip from the glass of science dispels all notion of God, He is waiting at the bottom of the glass.

[CAVEMANN]

It seems that everyone wants to prove the spiritual with the physical and vice versa, belief in God is an individual choice and subject to a personal relationship with Him through prayer, for a believer everything they do should be done in worship. I see many people that have a problem with giving, giving to the church or to someone on the street etc, I had that problem, especially in church. But after I came to realization that without Him I am nothing and He has supplied everything I have and whatever comes in, He asks for 10% back in tithes. The book of Malachi says to bring your tithes to the storehouse an see if I will not pour out a blessing that you cannot contain, it may not be monetary but He will keep His promise. I have received healings, I've seen healings, don't ask for prrof because I can't I only have my own testimony, and the testimony of the people that came into church and said "the doctors can't find any sign of the tumors I had." Is this God? In my mind it is most certainly God. The Bible says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. He is a good God, an awesome God and only limited by the box you've put Him in.

[smithdoor]

As the Titanic was sinking Atheist was cover to believing in God.

Just beforevhitting the beach in a battle it hard to find Atheist.

I always prayer to God to give doctors wisdom.
Most here do not know I have stage 4 colon cancer since 2009.
In Kaiser they have sign Americans with all stages of colon cancer, 48% live 5 pass years.

Dave

[Willie B]

legitimate science has no voice on questions of spiritual matters,
whilst dawkins writes sloppy pop science books for teenage pimply faced kids who are failing emotional puberty to compensate their fear with scientific pretensions.
Science and God are different magistaria, we might as well inquire as to the square root of pork chops, so the question dissolves into its own silliness.

The premise of seeking objective proof for the highly subjective spiritual matter is more indicative of the ignorance of those seeking proof of God whilst conveniently ignoring the profound evidence.

whilst the first sip from the glass of science dispels all notion of God, He is waiting at the bottom of the glass.

How many pork chops?

[jonesg]

those are the deadly sins of humanity, they're yours and mine just as much as anyone elses.
easy to see in others but we are blinded to our own.

[jonesg]

The 7 deadly sins.

they are the deadly sins of humanity, not the sins of trump or the bidens or the clintons.
What we point at, we are guilty of.

If you spot it, you got it.

[Willie B]

they are the deadly sins of humanity, not the sins of trump or the bidens or the clintons.
What we point at, we are guilty of.

If you spot it, you got it.

I think nearly every politician everywhere is guilty of most, if not all of those sins.

[jonesg]

Biden is a skilled politician but Americans don't want a politician at this moment, the country needs a statesman.

[Willie B]

Biden is a skilled politician but Americans don't want a politician at this moment, the country needs a statesman.

I believe Statesmen/stateswomen are extinct.

[jonesg]

I believe Statesmen/stateswomen are extinct.

if a politician cares about the next election but a statesman cares about the next generation then statesmen are never extinct.

[jonesg]

name one you are not guilty of.
All have fallen short, "all" means human, unless you're perfect or dwell in a cave somewhere.

We come together when we highlight our similarities, not our differences.

[Gar]

Thankful today for so much! My wonderful family, friends, and neighbors. Grateful for the freedoms we have left, and the ability to keep them. Grateful for the state of Montana where I harvested my first elk three weeks ago with a rifle I built.

Grateful this thread has remained respectful and that we are able to express our thoughts about science and God. God has given us all the ability to see what He has made, and with that discover more deeply how great He really is.

Pray you all are enjoying your time with family this year. On another note, has anyone heard from WelderMike, how he is doing, etc…

[123weld]

thats nice Gar. if welder mike is the guy im thinking of, he had a black pitbull for a avatar. if i remeber right, he was next door neighbors to Zapster, so he might know more

[Willie B]

if a politician cares about the next election but a statesman cares about the next generation then statesmen are never extinct.

Statesmen in this era do not get elected. Politicians do get elected.
I believe you sell your soul to get your name on any important ballot. By the time your name appears on a Congress, Senate, Presidential ballot You have favors to repay. Moral people don't put themselves in that position.

[jonesg]

The doctor with wisdom accepts he merely dresses the wound, God does the healing.

[farmersammm]

i wasnt referring to anything religous, and i dont think i understand what ur saying. my only point was, too bad people cant go back the way we were pre social media

I believe he's referring to a quote from either WWI, or WWII. "There are no atheists in foxholes"

[farmersammm]

i wasnt referring to anything religous, and i dont think i understand what ur saying. my only point was, too bad people cant go back the way we were pre social media

I'm not singling you out, it just was there in a quote response I just made.

To wish that things would go back to "pre social media" might just be a false thing.

There was a time, in this country, that people burned "witches" at the stake. Happened up in the Northeast. It was social media at its worst. People who had an axe to grind, focused hatred on the people that they hated, and actually got them killed in a horrific way. So.........there's always been some form of social media. And, it's always been perverted to fit the maker of the claims. Disinformation is nothing new.

[farmersammm]

Science vs. God?? Let's start it off by acknowledging that, if you believe, God gave Man the ability to make decisions.

You either believe in Science as a dogma, or you believe in Religion as a dogma. It's a matter of choice.........God given.

I have no quarrel with either. My beliefs are my own, but I accept all other's beliefs.

K'kins comes from a religious family. She, and her Mother, live by their religion. They don't flaunt it, they don't include God/Jesus in every sentence they utter. THEY LIVE THEIR BELIEFS. They do good by others, as they were taught. They're humble servants in the true meaning of the word. They don't have Jesus tatooed on their arm. They are the people that will give you shelter when your house burns down. And, they don't care if you're a believer in their religion, another religion, or a nonbeliever. They do what they've been inspired to do.

Anybody that gets in your face, and starts spouting religion as an end-all-be-all, is generally a Charleton. It generally winds up in a request for money.

Politicians are, likewise, infected with the same virus. They claim to be acting on God's behalf. Geez.............does anyone believe that crap? True believers act, others talk. Actions are stronger than words.

The Joel Olstien's of the world take your faith, work it against you, and profit from it. It's a damn shame.............but maybe it's just a testament to the gullibility of people. God shouldn't need an advertising agency...........he should be apparent in everything you experience during your short time on this Earth.

[jonesg]

You either believe in Science as a dogma, or you believe in Religion as a dogma. It's a matter of choice.........God given.

Its best to avoid black or white stances.

I don't believe in science as a dogma, it has its place but will always be limited.
I believe in God but don't belong to any religion.

[123weld]

I'm not singling you out, it just was there in a quote response I just made.

To wish that things would go back to "pre social media" might just be a false thing.

There was a time, in this country, that people burned "witches" at the stake. Happened up in the Northeast. It was social media at its worst. People who had an axe to grind, focused hatred on the people that they hated, and actually got them killed in a horrific way. So.........there's always been some form of social media. And, it's always been perverted to fit the maker of the claims. Disinformation is nothing new.

when Gar, initiated the term "social media", it is clear to me he was referring to weld web/internet chat, and his 2 yr absense. when i felt the need to explain it for smith, i stuck to the original terminolgy. as far as the "false thing," and "disinformation " u speak of, it reminds me more of ur thread "would u wear a mask if...." - as a condition to back to normal. the reason why that was so memeorable to me, is that is was such a false hope, and violates some religion(s), and lacked science benefit

[Willie B]

Science vs. God?? Let's start it off by acknowledging that, if you believe, God gave Man the ability to make decisions.

You either believe in Science as a dogma, or you believe in Religion as a dogma. It's a matter of choice.........God given.

I have no quarrel with either. My beliefs are my own, but I accept all other's beliefs. Farmer Sammm.

Damn! You are profound!