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Esab multipower 460

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#1 ·
Need some info on this welding machine. There's a school selling them 3 for $1500 or $650 for 1....... Don't know anything about them except they r big heavy n 3 phase. Says they weld great I can try each one before I buy. But I want to know how these machines are.. Reliable ect.... Any info is very helpful. Thank you
 
#3 ·
They are chopper machines ( Super Switch ) The 260/300 machines us the same ft end on the main board.. Esab just dropped a leg for single phase service.. I would but one for sure, if I had the power to run one.. I have a couple of mint feeders that would work on them. These are not very good machines, they are excellent machines.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Thank y'all. I do not currently have 3 phase power to hook them up. But looking into the converters. I was thinking about buying the 3 n selling 2. But I'm sure I would have to sit on them for a while..... Might just get the one.... Thank you

Want to add a question about 3 phase..... Can I run a converter on my home meter box? Or would I need an upgraded meter? Also does it pull power from all three powers at the same time or just one at a time? Thanks in advance
 
#5 · (Edited)
You can run a three phase converter off of your single phase service. It would take a total upgrade on your complete wiring to get three phase installed..A new separate service, with three phase close, and available to you.
 
#6 ·
You will need a huge converter for running that welder. Probably cost more than buying a new welder in the right voltage
 
#8 ·
Why worry about a converter or 3-phase service? Brand X noted above that they run on three phase OR single- just connect two, rather than three legs... you'll need a stout power feed to carry that much power, but if you don't run a heavy welding load, it'll get by with less... just size your breakers to protect the wiring feed, so they trip before you melt the wiring...
 
#9 · (Edited)
Those are pretty much 3 phase only machines. Esab used the same chopper board in the single phase 260/300 machine as the Multi-power 460.. That's the info I got from the Esab Rep one time..One that knew the product line well..

Now one of your conversions would be interesting to set up with a multi-power 460. Some of the 460 I've been around had stainless bolts, plastic panels, and they were built to take tremendous weather abuse.. I would like to own one, but a 260/300 machine will get most people what they need in single phase power input.

(shipyard model)


http://www.esabna.com/literature/ar...s/cvcc - multiprocess/multipower-460_pulse_shipyard_power_source_0558004964.pdf
 
#10 ·
Yowser- yeah, that Shipyard model is nice... and looking at the drawings and diagrams, I'd say it'd be a pretty easy unit to do a conversion-test on- the primaries could be wired right at the voltage-link panel.

I imagine they're worth every dollar one pays, and they're worth a whole lot... ;)

My latest 'shipyard' unit... is a P&H generator driven by a six-cylinder Chrysler flathead, made in 1944... Looking closely, I'd say that P&H probably made many of these just to provide power for electromagnets on their shipyard cranes, but found that a variable output would make it suitable for welding, too... It has yet to speak on it's own accord, but the carb has been thoroughly cleaned out and reinstalled, all the gunk washed off (now I can see the distributor), and I've verified that everything turns as it should... it's waiting it's turn to be forklifted into the dry, warm, illuminated shop, and set on cribbing to get the doctor's eyeballs...