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    Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    I am in the market for a mig welder that is spool gun ready. Was seriously thinking of the Hobart 190, but a local guy has a Longevity 200 for sale 3 months old, with cart. He was asking $750, but has dropped the price to $590. What say you? I was also thinking of the Lincoln 180C, which is what I'd really like. Appreciate any input.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Go Hobart or Lincoln. Good luck.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Hobart 210MVP would be a better choice IMO
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Two members here had Longevity Stickweld 250. Both progressively lost power. Member Pine had his replaced, and the replacement 250 did the very same thing.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Depends on your budget and what you plan to do with it. I know somebody that has Longevity mig, he says its works well for what he does. I like Hobart stuff, and always recommend them. I think you will be happier in the long run spending a little more for a Hobart.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Thanks guys. That's the way my gut told me to go, too. I wasn't even considering Longevity until that local one showed up. I'll keep looking. Appreciate the advice.Jim

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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho View Post
    I am in the market for a mig welder that is spool gun ready. Was seriously thinking of the Hobart 190, but a local guy has a Longevity 200 for sale 3 months old, with cart. He was asking $750, but has dropped the price to $590. What say you? I was also thinking of the Lincoln 180C, which is what I'd really like. Appreciate any input.
    Jim
    Jim,
    It sounds like I was in your boat. For a better answer you may want to tell us exactly your intentions for usage. If you need a spool gun, I guess you are going weld aluminum. At your level, which I guess may be similar to me; I don't believe you'll be happy with how hard it will be to weld the type of aluminum the machine you are thinking about can do.
    FYI, Hobart does have a “demo” unit web page that offers dealer and show demos with a full warrantee at a good saving.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    The 180c is a very good mig welder for it's size.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    I have a Longevity mig200, a Hobart Betamig 251, and a 200 amp miltiprocess machine from Northern tool. (I previously owned a Lincoln 180C, and a Lincoln WeldPak 155.

    Of the three I have now, I first got the Northern Industrial 200 amp with spool gun. It runs great, nice smooth, consistent arc with flux core from 14ga to max, and though the duty cycle is greater than the Lincolns, I would still run up against it on some long welds.
    I got the Longevity because of the longer duty cycle, and I have never hit the duty cycle on that one. It does, though have a less stable arc or feed at lower amp settings like I might use on 14ga with less than perfect fit up. On tight fillets of 14ga, and on thicker material, it performs well.
    The Betamig, I got in a trade for a couple of guns, and is the best of both worlds, and will replace one of the other two, but I haven't decided which.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Thanks again guys. I've seen very few bad comments about Hobart. I've had my Lincoln 225AC for decades, too. I can weld, but I don't call myself a welder. Most of my applications would be material less than 1/4, with the majority 1/8 or thinner. I did some 22ga with the old Lincoln yesterday, and was surprised I could do it, considering my skill level, and the machine. I used the 40 amp setting, and 3/32 6013. Today, I have more of that to do, and will try bumping up to 60 amps. (scrap practice first). I'd be happy with either the 180C or the H190. I'll be buying something in the next few weeks. Appreciate the comments...it all helps when spending big bucks.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    I strongly recommend you read this thread and skip to post 91 if you want to save some time prior to spending any money with Longevity. http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...91#post5486191
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    I've seen enough. I wasn't even considering Longevity until one showed up in my local area, which has few used machines available. I won't be buying a Longevity.
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    Re: Longevity migweld 200 vs Hobart 190

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho View Post
    Thanks again guys. I've seen very few bad comments about Hobart. I've had my Lincoln 225AC for decades, too. I can weld, but I don't call myself a welder. Most of my applications would be material less than 1/4, with the majority 1/8 or thinner. I did some 22ga with the old Lincoln yesterday, and was surprised I could do it, considering my skill level, and the machine. I used the 40 amp setting, and 3/32 6013. Today, I have more of that to do, and will try bumping up to 60 amps. (scrap practice first). I'd be happy with either the 180C or the H190. I'll be buying something in the next few weeks. Appreciate the comments...it all helps when spending big bucks.
    Jim
    Jim,

    If you get it dialed in correctly, set up with an .023 solid wire and C25 shielding gas, the PowerMIG 180C is excellent on 22 ga. With solid wire and C25, the PM 180C is best suited for 3/16" and thinner.
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