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    Cutting RR Track

    A friend needed a piece of track cut. Neighbor stop by and asked how to cut it. I said I'm gonna try it with my Ellis saw. Well, he wanted to try his saw and I said ok . Loaded in his truck and he tried . It took a couple of try's for him to get started on top.
    He did cut it but was not good enough of me, so to the Ellis. Used factory blade.
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    Besides being crooked it was rough. Rail is hard stuff.
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    Re: Cutting RR Track

    I got a nice size chunk of it laying around here. I think I'm gonna cut it down and mount a piece to one of my modular setups. It is handy for a lot of stuff.

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    I never cut track before, the filings are weird. They are light and dark in color, must be because of the hardness. I stayed with it monitoring the cut, I was a little concerned after reading stories about trying to cut track. Slowwwwwwwwwwww feed and it worked well . The sound of the teeth cutting would vary in pitch I because of the hardness. I have at least one more cut to do. I want to cut off where the track was welded. It will leave about 22''. Maybe I'll keep it that length.

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    I'm really glad it didn't smoke your blade Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A749 View Post
    I'm really glad it didn't smoke your blade Bob.
    Well Steve, I bought a bunch of blades at the Enco sale and this was the factory one. I made many cuts with it and it's still sharp. So if I did toast it I had replacements with a
    10 -14 TPI which is better for my use. That slow feed had to really help too. It was a good test.

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    That's a nice saw you got. I wish I had room for one

    That's the best thing to do. Buy several blades when they go on sale. Mine prolly needs one, but as little as I use it it's not a priority. I like 10-14 blades too. Perfect for most smaller stuff but will handle larger stock well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A749 View Post
    That's a nice saw you got. I wish I had room for one

    That's the best thing to do. Buy several blades when they go on sale. Mine prolly needs one, but as little as I use it it's not a priority. I like 10-14 blades too. Perfect for most smaller stuff but will handle larger stock well too.
    Only way to shop, On Sale. Thanks to '' Boostinjdm's '' on this Enco post about blades for the ELLIS, http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=21108782

    Yea, ME and ALL the '' RICH ELLIS OWNERS ''on WW took advantage of the deal. With the 25% of and free shipping for five or more about $19.00 EACH, great deal for sure.

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    Re: Cutting RR Track

    slowing your fpm on the saw by changing your belts really helps cutting the hard stuff... it doesn't make sense but it actually works... and as u mentioned keeping the saw drop slow...
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    I make anvils out of track and cut 50+ cuts at a time on my DoAll C-68. I use colbalt HSS blades and it cuts well, about 1.5 minutes per cut. I use Hocut 795 mixed 10% to water, you really need a good coolant to keep the blade from over heating. Moderate down force on the blade as well to keep it in the cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve from SoCal View Post
    I make anvils out of track and cut 50+ cuts at a time on my DoAll C-68. I use colbalt HSS blades and it cuts well, about 1.5 minutes per cut. I use Hocut 795 mixed 10% to water, you really need a good coolant to keep the blade from over heating. Moderate down force on the blade as well to keep it i
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    50 ! That's a lot of cuts. Have you noticed different color in the filings ??? I did and thought that maybe do to hardness. I may only have a coupl more cuts to do.

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    Yes the chip color is a regular rainbow, the work hardened edge that is rolled is worst. I get everything from straw yellow to dark blue. I always start the cut on the soft side, once the blade is under the hard edge it go pretty fast. The scale on the track is as bad or worse for blade life as the hardness.
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    The local Farm Supply business once received deliveries by rail. They used railroad materials for lots of uses, including home made I beams by welding intermittently top to top, (Yeah, I know that's dangerous) The owner was always fabricating something. He died about when I was born. The stories were of him hack sawing a score line best he could, and hitting it a few blows with a big hammer.

    In 1975 I built a records vault for the town. I capped the ceiling with rail, and poured concrete on top. I used a sawzall to score, and a ten pound hammer. Usually it took 4 or 5 blows.
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    Re: Cutting RR Track

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve from SoCal View Post
    Yes the chip color is a regular rainbow, the work hardened edge that is rolled is worst. I get everything from straw yellow to dark blue. I always start the cut on the soft side, once the blade is under the hard edge it go pretty fast. The scale on the track is as bad or worse for blade life as the hardness.
    Steve, So you start your cut with the part upside down in your saw. I was thinking the same thing as it might make the process easier. I have just been asked if I can cut a piece of track the other day. Low and behold this post pops up.
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    Re: Cutting RR Track

    I'll try cutting the wide part first next time. Cutting the top really didn't to be affecting the blade. The filings sure were a variety of colors .

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    The rail is right side up; the track is asymmetrical, I orient the rail to cut the outside edge first. Train wheels are tapered and flanged, the inside top radius of the rail is the most work hardened part. That is where you DON"T want to start your cut. Look at the rail, the edge with a bump out or projection on the side is where the wheels have rolled the track.
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    Re: Cutting RR Track

    Thanks Steve from SoCal . Please post some pics for your anvils. I have seen some RR anvils posted here on WW .

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    WOW ! Those look like machined surfaces, beautiful looking !!

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    Nice work, Steve. I had always heard that the top rail surface was work hardened, but never read any detail about how the edge rolls and hardens. Good information, thanks for posting.

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    Cuts as nasty as 4150 prehard. Slow cut with lots of coolant and you're golden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    WOW ! Those look like machined surfaces, beautiful looking !!
    They are machined AND ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontheturboguy View Post
    Cuts as nasty as 4150 prehard. Slow cut with lots of coolant and you're golden.
    Mine was cut dry on the ELLIS , no issues.

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    No bandsaw so I started with the cutting torch and ground my way down... a LOT of grinding down. I'm totally envious.
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    Used a bandsaw, plasma cutter and O/A torch to rough this out.

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    Re: Cutting RR Track

    Railroad cutoff saws are abrasive and clamp on the rail old track drills drilled by hand with a morse taper drill.

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