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    whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    So what is a good machine for air arcing?
    I'm just a hobby welder so it would not do more than a 20hr in a year

    Thanks
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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    I've used a Miller dial arc with 3/16" carbons and it was OK. Problem is your pretty limited on amps with 220 input. 250 or so amps, unless you have a special circuit. An inverter like an XMT will give you more amps on 220. Some say it wrecks the welder, but I have personally never seen it happen. Best bet is an engine drive like an sa200 or Miller big 40.

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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    Find yourseld an old Lincoln Idealarc 250. They sometimes go pretty cheap. They have a great arc for stick, but will do limited arcing.
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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    For hobby work you would be better off to buy a plasma and use that for gouging. The plasma is a necessary tool by itself, and using it in place of an air arc makes it even better. My welder at 600 amps and a 25 horse air compressor flat blows steel away and will bury my Powermax 45 several times over. But if all I have is a 250 amp welder I would rather gouge with my Powermax 45.

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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    Idealarc tig 300 300 would give you 300 amps @ 60% duty cycle and around 375 with a more limited duty cycle. Would need 80-105 input amps depending on year and whether equipped with the power factor correction capacitors.\

    Think the Miller 330 A-BP Is rated around 430 amps

    I have been thinking about getting set up with one to, even though I have a plasma
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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    thanks for the replys
    I have a lincoln 350 mp and I am not to keen on using it for air arcing.
    I am looking at a syncrowave 300 would it stand up to air arc use
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    miller syncro wave 300

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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    The Lincoln vantage series
    Lincoln Idealarc 250
    Lincoln Vantage 400
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    Get Er Done!!

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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    Quote Originally Posted by bcguide View Post
    thanks for the replys
    I have a lincoln 350 mp and I am not to keen on using it for air arcing.
    I am looking at a syncrowave 300 would it stand up to air arc use
    I have a lincoln V350 Pro, similar, but not the same. It gouges like crazy, even has its own program for it. All I have to do is supply 60 amps.

    I use my Rager 250 instead. All it needs is gas.
    Saves on the electric bill. I have a Demand meter at the shop.

    Yes a Vantage would be better but you are surpassing "Hobby Weldor"

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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    300-400 amp inverter is what you need for air arcing on 230v power.
    As others said, a 300+ amp diesel engine drive would be better.
    We're gouging right now with big blue 400's.
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    Re: whats a good 220 volt welder for air arcing

    Quote Originally Posted by bcguide View Post
    So what is a good machine for air arcing?
    I'm just a hobby welder so it would not do more than a 20hr in a year

    Thanks
    Scott
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    usually welding machine manufacturer will say if ok to air arc. and usually i only air arced to remove welds. and typically it removes welds fast. in 20 hours i would think you could air arc like well over 200 feet.
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    i do not think i air arc 200 feet in welding over 37 years.
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    they also sell gouging torch tip. oxyacetylene gouging tip will remove welds of steel slower but will do the weld removal in structural steel too
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    sometimes i used air arc to cut up old tanks less than 3/16" thick. even using 6010 rod at 100 amps more than normal like 200 amps for 1/8 rod. hot rodding with air arc will blast the metal out of way cutting the thin metal and do not have to worry about torch damage as it effects only the 6010 rod not like using a plasma worrying about plasma torch damage
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    still there are times i cut for hours with air arc torch but still doubtful i cut 20 hours in 37 years. air arc uses a lot of compressed air typically if you got 5hp compressor you will have to stop often for it to build up air pressure
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    its also very noisy and throws sparks often over 30 feet

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