And don't mistakenly grab an engineers tape which is in tenths and hundredths of a foot!! I have one I keep in my toolbox just to mess with other folks mind.
Mike
Ol' Stonebreaker
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"
Hobart G-213 portable
Miller 175 mig
Miller thunderbolt ac/dc stick
Victor O/A setup
Makita chop saw
"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA Iraq 1/26/05
Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3
Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250
SP-175 +
Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)
Lincwelder AC180C (1952)
Victor & Smith O/A torches
Miller spot welder
That is why school is not working. People think they have to learn everything about everything before they do anything. When if fact without a real project you will not have any true understanding of the device, system or math you are trying to learn. I have found that those that go to school at first have some cool tips and tricks that they pick up. Then after about six months they do not have them anymore. The reason is that they are not real to them. The importance of them is zero, until they use them in real life.
Sincerely,
William McCormick
If I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
Dave I sometimes use the word retarded, and trust me I mean nothing by it. I often wonder if retarded individuals aren't taking in all the wrong in the world and correctly sorting it out, rather than just brushing over it like we do.
There was a retarded guy Charlie that used to come to my house when I was a kid and he would hang out in the garage as I would fabricate things. After a while he knew all I knew about a procedure, and he knew it perhaps better than I did. So although I say retarded as meaning slow or unworkable, I do not think any less of those individuals that are considered retarded as long as they are sociable.
I think retarded individuals are better suited for certain tasks, when they enjoy those tasks, more so than a person considered not retarded. So to me it is just a case of the right job for the right person. Most of the retarded people I have come to meet, know they are strange, so I usually have a lot in common with them.
Sincerely,
William McCormick
If I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
If you learn how to weld pipe, you don't have to know math. Let the pipefitters take care of that.
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I like it when the magazine telemarketers want to know my position in the company. Am I the bookkeeper, secretary, accountant, boss, purchasing agent, floor sweeper, laborer, whipping boy, delinquent account collector, or, once in a while, I do the work the customers get charged for.
Willie
An optimist is usually wrong, and when the unexpected happens is unprepared. A pessimist is usually right, when wrong, is delighted, and well prepared.
She's just trying to get a job, not be a one person fab shop.
Timmy, she needs to get on a production welding job where there's very little call for math skills, just keep that hood down and burn that wire and start improving her math skills while earning a paycheck. When she learns to use math along with welding then she can aspire to a less boring welding job.
Mike
Ol' Stonebreaker
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"
Hobart G-213 portable
Miller 175 mig
Miller thunderbolt ac/dc stick
Victor O/A setup
Makita chop saw
Don't feel bad.
I FAILED general math 4 straight years in high school.
Straight F's every time..
But now look.
Everything I do has to deal with numbers.
Being a machinist....Math is needed every minute of every day.
Doing math with your hands is 100 times easier than with your brain.
Get a good calculator..like the one in every phone and have at it.
Don't let it get you down.
Make it make you stand up for yourself and say " I can do this".
...zap!
I am not completely insane..
Some parts are missing
Professional Driver on a closed course....
Do not attempt.
Just because I'm a dumbass don't mean that you can be too.
So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Math also involves much, much more than just numbers. I won't know what that General Math course entails, but solving algebra problems as a youth builds up the neuron connections in your brain that are used to solve ANY logical problem. The more abstract math (like algebra) that one practices, the more neurons are utilized to make logical thinking/problem solving faster and more efficient. That is the whole point of studying math in school. It's like body building. Unless you're a professional bodybuilder, you don't lift weights for the sake of lifting weights---you're after some other kind of after-effect. Studying math is the "lifting weights" part----solving real world problems [in any way] is the "after effect" of building up your brain muscles (neural activity/efficiency).
Oscar I get head aches when I use my brain too much :/ LOL
Lincoln, ESAB, Thermal Dynamics, Victor, Miller, Dewalt, Makita, Kalamzoo. Hand tools, power tools, welding and cutting tools.
Khan Academy is maybe the best single resource on the internet, and you can get it for FREE. It is amazing. My kids all use it for everything from 3rd grade math to college math. it will help you.google: Khan Academy
-It's free
-It goes at your own pace
-You can choose topics and grade levels to study
-The questions include hints to click on and videos to click on
-It also makes a nice smiley face and a pleasing "ding" when you get stuff right
Miller Multimatic 255
TRUTH. My dad started out as a tool and die maker and transitioned over to become a machinist after the first 20 years of his career. He is retired now and he still blows me away when it comes to math. I used a fair amount of math as a paramedic calculating drug dosages, and I use even more as a CPA but I can't hold a candle to my dad when it comes to algebra, trig, or geometry, and he does it all in his head on the fly. Go figure.Some of the MOST TALENTED people I know at everyday mathematics are carpenters and machinists who can do it in their head all day long because of PRACTICE for years.
Miller Multimatic 255
Don't you see? That's the good part! That's like when you get a good burn/sore muscles after a good workout. The neurons in your brain are reaching out to neighboring neurons to create a neural super-highway of cognitive mass-transit. Once those "roads" connect, traffic starts to flow more freely (aka: you're getting smarter and smarter).
have you tried getting on at some of the trailer builders in caldwell? If you are green you are probably would not be valuable to a fab shop, you need to find a trigger pulling job, find one of the places that need someone to keep there head under the hood all day welding widgets, and just pay attention and it will start to make sense. I never finished 8th grade most of my job related math I know I learned on the job and I always have a calculator with me.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs ago
Miller 350LX Tig Runner
TA 210, spool gun
Lincoln 250/250 IdealArc
ESAB PCM 500i Plasma
Kazoo 30" vert BS
Kazoo 9x16 horiz BS
Clausing 12x24 lathe
20T Air Press
The local college here has added a "Math for the Trades" class after finding that there was a need, look around, there is a class out there.
this is my m.o. and it's stood me in good stead my whole 45 year career. forget the fancy math unless you like it then by all means knock yourself out. add,subtract,know some simple fractions and know how to read a ruler. spend the time instead being the best welder/burner in the shop. buy a good solar powered calculator and keep it in your locker. if you want to do trick math be an engineer.
i.u.o.e. # 15
queens, ny and sunny fla
I agree with docwelder, the main thing is to learn how to read a tape measure.