Save Phace Gen X. Damn good optics to boot !

 

If you need tighter than that http://www.usaweld.com/Optrel-weldcap-p/1008.001.htm

 

Have you tried a leather sock hood?

 

Boy you must be OLD CEP !! :laugh: Me too! That's similar to the one I sent to WELDERMIKE in like new condition. Mine had an adjustable head band in it . They are great when needed.

 

Thanks, I think that leather hood may be the ticket.

 

How about a set of goggles with autodark or motion activated darkening? I bet ther'd be a market for that.

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You' need more UV face protection than a goggle........unless ?

 

Ah, good point, i forgot about UV. I've rarely been burned welding, it didn't occur to me. Nice cousin IT too... LOL.

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Apparently these leather hoods with an auto dark lense are hard to find...

Has anyone tried the Miller weld-mask? Looks like it might be the ticket...

I do not know how to post a link but it comes right up on google at cyberweld, a little spendy but you need the right tool to do the job...$188.

 

Apparently these leather hoods with an auto dark lense are hard to find...
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Soft tops are not hard to find. I can order one in at my LWS. AD lenses can be added.

 

Miller has a set of auto darkening goggles. The price varies wildly between about $190-300. It has a removable face shied on it. The original manufacturer is a Korean company called Servore, and you can still get them on Amazon for about $170. I bought the Servore ones and recommend changing the batteries pretty soon after buying. The Miller branded ones usually come with a head covering. The Servore didn't come with one of those, but came with a removable frame to put a cheater lens in if you like to have those. My buddy got the same one I did, and took the frame to Wal-Mart and they cut him some reading lenses and installed them in the frame for $20. The people I know that bought the Miller one didn't have the frame for the cheaters. Other than that, they are exactly the same. Miller bought the design from them. Until recently, they didn't even say Miller on them anywhere, and now they just say Miller on the head band.

 

I've used the leather hood before, if works when you need it, but it's HOT and fogs up quick. The Optrel baseball cap/mask is goofy with the brim. When Miller started carrying the Weld-mask I quickly got one. It's made by Servore and I've seen them as cheap as $150 but don't know if that includes the face shield and welding hood. Best thing since sliced bread. I wouldn't use it all day, or every day, but when you need to get in tight places, there's nothing better. Even if you wear glasses, the mask comes with a frame insert that you can get filled with your prescription. I see others say the Miller version doesn't come with it, but mine did.

 

Did yours come with a bag for it? I've known two people that got the Miller ones that didn't get the frames. I'm sure they've gone through a few iterations of packages because the strap keeps getting a different design. My Servore one came with a bag but no hood. It has the face shield though. My buddy ordered the same one the day I got mine and his came with all the same stuff. Even a suction cup to remove the cover lens. I got it of Amazon and paid $6 for overnight shipping at about 3 in the afternoon and was using it at 10 the next morning. I was pretty surprised how fast I got it.

 

Miller version, bought it from my LWS a few years ago and it came with:

Goggles
Mask
Hood
Prescription lens insert
2 sets of anti-fog film static cling type stickers for inside of goggles
1 or 2 replacement clear outer lens for goggles
A soft storage bag that looks kind of like a soft sided insulated lunch bag with a shoulder strap.

I probably only use it every two months or so, BUT HUGE lifesaver when stuck under a truck or trailer where the helmet doesn't fit!

 

thanks guys. Thanks xryan.

With the comment that the leather ends up sliding on your head I think I will order the miller and try it. That and my LWS doesn't seem to know what I am talking about but thats probably my fault.

 

If you are going to get the Miller, definitely order it online. I haven't seen one at any LWS that wasn't ridiculously priced. If it's only $190 at Cyberweld, is recommend them. I've ordered from them and their customer service is pretty good and fast shipping.

 

Have you ever seen a pancake hood?

 

These leather masks are really popular around here
You will not find any hood that is smaller or lighter. I have a couple and even fitted an ADF in one of them.

Welding by Taz00, on Flickr


IMG_3442 by Taz00, on Flickr

 

Just ordered the Miller through cyberweld...

Thanks again for the help folks.

 

taz00, that leather mask of yours looks way better than those leather sock hoods that cover your whole head. Those things are nasty. What brand is that?

Also, what the heck are you guys welding on in that pic?

 

It is made by a Greek company that specializes in PPE. Here is a link to that mask
https://www.stop.gr/en/Product/4545-Welding-Mask
They also make an all black leather one which is stiffer
image1 by Taz00, on Flickr

As far as the welding, this is a procedure qualification test according to API 1104 Appendix B for an in service weld for a hot tap.
Water flows from inside the pipe to simulate the cooling effects of the actual fluid in the pipeline.
Here is a sketch of the test piece taken from the code to help you understand the setup and a pic from another hot tap where you can see the split tee.

Welding by Taz00, on Flickr

Welding by Taz00, on Flickr

To clarify, I was not the one welding in any of these pics, I was the welding inspector.

 

Don't forget the pancake mask too, they're popular with pipe welders and cooler than the leather hoods.

 

WOW! That company puts guys in a ditch without shoring plates, or a 2 to 1 slope?! :nono::nono::nono::nono:

 

WOW !! I guess in that country they don't give a shlt about safety . I sure hope they have life insurance too. Boy , talk about a possible accident waiting to happen.

 

Can't say much except you are right.

 

Weld-mask arrived today. Pretty quick delivery if you ask me. Got it from cyberweld. Seems to be as advertised. Carry bag. Little glasses thingy that could take prescription lenses. The hood is small, real small. I didn't get back to the shop till this evening so I'll pull the miller out in the morning and see how it does. Other than the small, tight hood I think it will serve my space requirements well and I think I will like how I can lay on my back or side and have the goggles stay where I can see out of them.

 

Well, the millerweld mask worked as advertised.

I gave it a workout up under a pontoon and it allowed me plenty of room to see what I was doing.

The only two negatives are:

1. The blue hood is too small for a normal American male.

2. It does not have a shade setting of 10.

 

When we built this 1-mile of container ship dock at the Port of Oakland California. I was the pile driving superintendent. Just to the left of the crawler crane, and concrete trucks is a 15-feet tall pre-cast concrete cutoff wall. Right next to the first row of concrete piles. Our estimators didn’t put any money in the bid for shoring boxes. And with the road right there they could not slope the ditch. The guys were going in a 15-feet deep ditch with vertical walls. We poured concrete every Friday, and the derrick drove piles just off shore. I went to the project manager and told him he needed to rent shoring boxes. He replied that there was no money for them. I went out and told the guys they were crazy for getting in that ditch!:nono::nono:

 

CEP you guys did a great job on that pier, i used to go in there every 35 days until i retired. Its neat seeing it under construction, thanks for posting that picture. As far as the lack of trench boxes on the job site, i can't imagine that happening anywhere much less in California you would think there would have been some type of oversight from some government agency who would have put a stop to that. What year did you do that project?

 

When they say stupid snit like that is when you have to drop a dime on them!

 

I was floored the Port of Oakland didn’t shut them down!

 

That was the first thing I thought of, "HE11 NO I'm not getting in there without a trench box."

Oh, there's no money in the bid for boxes? Well how much money is in the bid for 1-800-321-OSHA, because I think they're on their way now.

 

Heather hoods work great, they can get dam hot when welding in the sun, good for those short weld jobs you just cant fit a regular helmet into.
Many Many years ago I saw my first pancake welding helmet, I thought it was the craziest thing ever, if I had not seen other guys using them I would have thought it was a joke.
Then one 112 degree day in the ditch on 16 inch gas line I tried one on, I was sold at that day on. That was years ago but I still have a couple here in the office.