Primeweld AC/DC Tig 225X

[mechanic416]

I did some bata testing on this unit and posted it on here but it must have gotten lost when the site crashed.

Anyway they are in and are for sale on Amazon here is the link.

https://www.amazon.com/PRIMEWELD-Sti...K5Q5HN40DGVHE9

[C. Livingstone]

Wow,

That's interesting, George.

And it's cool that a WW member is a beta tester of a new unit like this coming to market.

This one looks like it hits the same selling points as the AHP AlphaTIG, for price ($699, delivered), features, included extras, etc.

Plus, 225 amps, too!

[Hobbytime]

Wow,

That's interesting, George.

And it's cool that a WW member is a beta tester of a new unit like this coming to market.

This one looks like it hits the same selling points as the AHP AlphaTIG, for price, features, included extras, etc.

Plus, 225 amps, too!

Geez..like flies to $hit..................LMFAO............................................................ .................................................. ...........couldnt help it CL..........

[C. Livingstone]

Nah,

Just not a Debbie Downer...

Of course, I don't mind the banter or antagonism, Hobby. And I'm recently enjoying our semi-debate in the Political Thread, which I seem to be driven into, due to some recent posts of mine being placed there. Previously, I never even bothered to look or post in that thread. But I might start loading up there, since that might be the only place, other than the Everlast Area, that I'm immune from the snowflakes and crybabies. Ha, ha, ha... Otherwise, hopefully the complainers won't come out in George's thread and beg the moderators to relieve their anxiety (as if I'm actually causing it). There's nothing to really cry about here.

I think a new AC/DC TIG unit with AC frequency control to 200Hz is great. 225 amps is a cool niche in amperage, too.

Maybe George will inform us on the max duty-cycle and begin in this thread to give his fuller impression of the AC arc characteristics and HF starts, etc, as I didn't the thread that George did on this unit, only an earlier 250 amp Eastwood MIG unit, that he liked well.

I've seen numerous, extremely good user/buyer feedback regarding other units (identical to one I owned for several years) from the PrimeWeld importer, which reportedly has outstanding support too.

https://www.amazon.com/PrimeWeld-Ct5...imeweld+welder

It's a good time for welding!

[MinnesotaDave]

Geez..like flies to $hit..................LMFAO............................................................ .................................................. ...........couldnt help it CL..........

This did not need to be said.

Nah,

Just not a Debbie Downer...

Of course, I don't mind the banter or antagonism, Hobby. And I'm recently enjoying our semi-debate in the Political Thread, which I seem to be driven into, due to some recent posts of mine being placed there. Previously, I never even bothered to look or post in that thread. But I might start loading up there, since that might be the only place, other than the Everlast Area, that I'm immune from the snowflakes and crybabies. Ha, ha, ha... Otherwise, hopefully the complainers won't come out in George's thread and beg the moderators to relieve their anxiety (as if I'm actually causing it). There's nothing to really cry about here.

Let's put this right out in the open then.

I get almost zero complaints about people, when I do get them, they are mostly about you.

You think it's fun to poke at people in welding threads, many members do not agree.

In the political thread, very little matters to members and I don't get complaints.

You are on borrowed time, again.

[soutthpaw]

George. Got any more info on your testing or experience with this machine and it's accessories? Are you going to be doing warranty work for them?
US or Chinese based distributor?

[mechanic416]

Man it didn't take long for this to go down hill

From the testing I did it worked as well as most tig welders in this price range, they did make thing standard as suggested like the 1/2" dinse and 5/8" x 18 argon fittings as well as updating to a real CK 17FX torch.



Anyway for anyone that would like to have some info on this unit here is some.

10 to 225 amps, AC/DC w/pulse, 120/240 volt, pre and post flow, Ck flex head torch 12 1/2' SF hose with 1/2" dinse with 5/8"x18 standard argon fittings.

Duty cycle 120 volt
TIG 40% @ 140, 100% @ 108
MMA 40% @ 120, 100% @ 76

Duty cycle 240 volt
TIG 40% @ 225, 100% @ 155
MMA 40% @ 180, 100% @ 139

3 Year warranty

For more info contact Primeweld @ primeclickllc@gmail.com

Sold by a seller here in the USA and has been around for a few years has good feedback.

[Hobbytime]

[QUOTE=MinnesotaDave;8608044]This did not need to be said.



I was just having some fun with him, nothing more and not a dig at mechanics post.....

[Hobbytime]

Nah,

Just not a Debbie Downer...

Of course, I don't mind the banter or antagonism, Hobby. And I'm recently enjoying our semi-debate in the Political Thread, which I seem to be driven into, due to some recent posts of mine being placed there. Previously, I never even bothered to look or post in that thread. But I might start loading up there, since that might be the only place, other than the Everlast Area, that I'm immune from the snowflakes and crybabies. Ha, ha, ha... Otherwise, hopefully the complainers won't come out in George's thread and beg the moderators to relieve their anxiety (as if I'm actually causing it). There's nothing to really cry about here.

I think a new AC/DC TIG unit with AC frequency control to 200Hz is great. 225 amps is a cool niche in amperage, too.

Maybe George will inform us on the max duty-cycle and begin in this thread to give his fuller impression of the AC arc characteristics and HF starts, etc, as I didn't the thread that George did on this unit, only an earlier 250 amp Eastwood MIG unit, that he liked well.

I've seen numerous, extremely good user/buyer feedback regarding other units (identical to one I owned for several years) from the PrimeWeld importer, which reportedly has outstanding support too.

https://www.amazon.com/PrimeWeld-Ct5...imeweld+welder

It's a good time for welding!

I was just havin some fun with you..I just said to myself you would be the first cheerleader on this ,,and you were.. and no intent to say anything negative about mechanics post on a true review of a welder...

[MinnesotaDave]

Hey George, I'm more curious about the business model.

There are an uncountable number of imported machines of various styles and capacities.

I wonder how many "companies" are still companies 5-10 years later?

How did you get chosen as a beta tester? Has the company (not the re-seller) been making welders for a long time?

Do you think the trend of "throw away" machines will continue to expand, or eventually even out somehow?

[soutthpaw]

This did not need to be said.

But it was still funny. George is a good guy, so I would like to hear more about it and his experience with it.
And if a certain person says Black Swan anywhere in this or any other thread, they should be automatically banned. Hehe. No skirting the rules like this either...

[C. Livingstone]

Ha, ha, ha...

Yeah, Southpaw, is that a trigger for you?

Otherwise, 40% duty-cycle at 225 amps on 240 volts is quite good on a TIG unit.

Yeah, no sweat, Hobby! But I'll recommed that you figure out how to "Reply With Quote" with only a snippet of the quote, so that the thread doesn't become so tacky.

And, Dave, some of these PrimeWeld units are identical to the Lotos stuff, and the GiantTech CAT520D Combo that I bought years ago, which outlasted the warrantee, and is still used by a friend.

The PrimeWeld importer seems to have good support and user feedback. Even a unit like the CAT520D can be repaired, after warrantee, I believe, in other places beyond the importer, too.

Maybe even George himself could handle repairing some PrimeWeld units in the years to come, if PrimeWeld folds up its proverbial tent.

[mechanic416]

Dave, All I can say is I was asked by the seller to test a few welders and plasma cutters. I had dealt with the seller before so I said sure. The units were shipped to me in plain boxes with no names on them they were all proto types. I opened every unit up to see how they were made and tested them told them what was wrong with them, how to improve them, if they were even worth selling.

I really don't know who made them for sure, but from being inside them I think I know who made a few and they have been around for some time.

Here is my take on "throw away" machines,

As far as how long the new style welders will last its hard to say. The trouble is that once someone makes a good unit and puts it on the market, someone copys it with lesser quality parts and drops the price the good ones stop selling and are not made or imported.

Case in point Lincoln SW TIG 200 and the Vulcan PRO-TIG 200

[MinnesotaDave]

Dave, All I can say is I was asked by the seller to test a few welders and plasma cutters. I had dealt with the seller before so I said sure. The units were shipped to me in plain boxes with no names on them they were all proto types. I opened every unit up to see how they were made and tested them told them what was wrong with them, how to improve them, if they were even worth selling.

I really don't know who made them for sure, but from being inside them I think I know who made a few and they have been around for some time.

Here is my take on "throw away" machines,

As far as how long the new style welders will last its hard to say. The trouble is that once someone makes a good unit and puts it on the market, someone copys it with lesser quality parts and drops the price the good ones stop selling and are not made or imported.

Case in point Lincoln SW TIG 200 and the Vulcan PRO-TIG 200

My future crystal ball says that we (the USA) will be forever importing cheap machines that may or may not work.

It will end up like the Craftsman company - and the various companies that sell the same product.
Each new model will be from a different source and will be unknown for reliability - several companies will get large enough to also buy the same machines in different paint. When that line runs out, the process will start again.

There will be no continuity and name brands will end up not mattering very much. The "quest" will be who can sell the same box the cheapest.

I think the heavy industrial units like Invertec 350 pro and such will be unaffected. Same for the large Dynasty machines.
No mass produced profit to be had copying such an expensive machine.

[mechanic416]

George. Got any more info on your testing or experience with this machine and it's accessories? Are you going to be doing warranty work for them?
US or Chinese based distributor?

All I can say is the control face plate and color is the same as the one I tested. I have not tested the production units and have not been asked to. I do not know who will be doing the warranty work for them, as I was not asked to do it.

[C. Livingstone]

Yeah,

I wouldn't be surprise if PrimeWeld gets or has an exclusive deal with the factory for this particular TIG unit design in the N.A. marketplace.

I mean, I haven't seen it anywhere before.

Time will tell.

But PrimeWeld seems like a strong upstart/importer here.

I mean, I paid $549, delivered, on sale, for my GiantTech CAT520D TIG/Plasma unit, over seven years ago.

And today, PrimeWeld has the identical unit on Amazon for $399, delivered.

That is really amazing to me, especially with being contrary to Federal Reserve monetary and price inflation, targeted at 2% per year.

[soutthpaw]

All I can say is the control face plate and color is the same as the one I tested. I have not tested the production units and have not been asked to. I do not know who will be doing the warranty work for them, as I was not asked to do it.

What did you think of the actual arc quality and features? Accessories are same generic Chinese stuff?

[mechanic416]

What did you think of the actual arc quality and features? Accessories are same generic Chinese stuff?

To "me" it welds as good as most tig welders in that price range, and should work well for most small shops, light production work and hobby welders. Other then the addition of the CK torch all the same old stuff, but that helps keep the price down and it works.

[soutthpaw]

Cool. Did you take the cover off and get any pics of the insides

[mechanic416]

I take the cover off all welders and plasma cutters that come in the shop for repair or testing before I even plug them in.

Pictures, yes but they were sent on to the seller with do's, don't and changes to be made. I didn't keep them as proto type machines have things not even tied down wires going every which way, and a lot of this gets changed and are not what you get in the end.

I had one welder and one plasma cutter that was DOA, got the welder working but wasn't up to par so it got scraped. Was getting ready to scrap out the plasma cutter but got it working last week, so I will keep it in the shop for my own use until it dies or I give it away to a needy person.

[soutthpaw]

Ok this will trigger Christian.

But I find it interesting that it seems more companies are reaching out to users in the industry for testing and design input with these beta testers. Like what they did with you and with Terry. I think the internet has a lot to do with it as well. It can make or break your product. I came across a brand of winch I had never heard of on another welding forum thread, Engo. Read about the user's experience, read a shootout in a popular magazine, they picked this winch 3rd and the warn 1st. Even though the warn actually grenaded itself in the stall test and leaked brown crud in the underwater test. The Engo was only 1 of 2 winches to pass all the tests. So there is obvious bias to their biggest advertisers. But internet comments on the product get the name out there. Individual users experiences count for a lot. I'm sure Terry has been responsible for some members buying a Vulcan welder.
Hopefully they will send you the updated version based on your input and you can have more to say about it.

[Jawslandshark]

I guess the other welder brands have already taken all the exciting colors, except for pink.... They chose black, is it a "Black Unicorn"? I guess in China there is only one shade of green and it's already spoken for.

[soutthpaw]

I guess the other welder brands have already taken all the exciting colors, except for pink.... They chose black, is it a "Black Unicorn"? I guess in China there is only one shade of green and it's already spoken for.

Lincoln turns pink if you leave it out in the sun long enough

[Sedanman]

Ok this will trigger Christian.

Maybe, but he won't be able to respond. #ban hammer

[MinnesotaDave]

Maybe, but he won't be able to respond. #ban hammer

He is correct.