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    looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    I am going to look at a used 252 this weekend. The pics make the unit look pretty clean. I will go weld with it before handing over any cash. Assuming it welds well, what other issues/items/gotchas should I be looking for or aware of on one these units? Anything special to look for on visual inspection?

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    If it has drive rolls to run dual shield that would be a plus. I had to buy them separate and a larger liner, not a deal breaker but it helps.
    Not trying to get in your business how much are they asking ?
    I've had mine several years never had a problem yet, knock on wood
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Guy is asking $1500. Looks super clean. Not very old from the look of the pics. Not banged up at all.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Not sure if you can check total hours and arc starts like you can on the 350p
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    I haven't heard of any particular weaknesses in the 252's. Of course everything mechanical can and will fail eventually. Mine has been trouble-free for quite a few years since I bought it new. $1500 seems like a very good price for a top notch unit.
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    I paid about the same price (after all fees) for mine at an auction. I think it is a pretty bullet proof machine, but I am a hobbyist so your use may vary.

    See if he has any other size drive rolls, contact tips, nozzles, liners, rolls of wire, etc to throw in. I also bring extra cash and see if the seller has any other items they want to get rid of.
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Well I brought her home. Came with a full 44 lb spool of 0.035 Lincoln wire, and a 50 foot 8/3 SOOW cord. Welds great. I was pretty happy to get it for $1500

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    You did good around here one beat all to pieces will still bat that by several hundred at a auction
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    Thanks. Plus I figure the 50 foot of 8/3 is worth $100 and the 44 lbs of wire is worth $100, so that really sweetens the deal a bit. Some days I love Craig's List. The guy also offered me an 80% finished AR-10 lower receiver for free, but in CT possessing one of those could make me a felon, so I passed on the lower.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    It seems that this welder came with a Bernard Q gun, which raises a whole bunch of questions for me.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Question 1: This gun is pretty beefy. I am assuming if I am needing to do some welding on mufflers or auto body stuff with 0.023 wire, I may want to invest in a lighter gun. Does that make sense or are there some combination of parts that I can get for this gun that would be a better solution?

    Question 2: Do all the center fire tips work in any gun, or are there any sizing "gotchyas" I need to look out for?

    Question 3: Am I reading correctly that I can adjust contact tip stick out and/or recess? Do I do that by buying different nozzles, or is there some other adjustment?

    Question 4: Coming from a stock Hobart Handler, what else do I need to know about this gun and the centerfire set up?

    Thanks.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    The gun looks like my 400 amp I use for .045 Dual Shield. Nozzles are available with various length.
    I also have a M25 which was stock on my 252, I use .035, and .030 in it
    I bought a little 100 amp gun for .023 as it birdsnests trying to use .023 with stock gun.
    I did buy a spool gun, but haven't used it.

    I'll get you part numbers in a day or so.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Yeah I was thinking of maybe the HTP America flex neck gun or a Bernard 150 or 200 Q gun (assuming it takes the same consumables) for a second smaller gun.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Q guns are standard in Miller machines now. Great guns, better gas flow and tips last a long time. The number of dashes on the cable tell the amp rating, 4 dashes= 400 amp gun. Very little difference externally between 300 and 400, just get an 023 liner for it.
    You can also go with tapered tips for light work, smaller stuff.
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    Question 1: This gun is pretty beefy. I am assuming if I am needing to do some welding on mufflers or auto body stuff with 0.023 wire, I may want to invest in a lighter gun. Does that make sense or are there some combination of parts that I can get for this gun that would be a better solution?

    Question 2: Do all the center fire tips work in any gun, or are there any sizing "gotchyas" I need to look out for?

    Question 3: Am I reading correctly that I can adjust contact tip stick out and/or recess? Do I do that by buying different nozzles, or is there some other adjustment?

    Question 4: Coming from a stock Hobart Handler, what else do I need to know about this gun and the centerfire set up?

    Thanks.
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    So, thanks to Southpaw for the tips. I have a 300 amp gun according to the dashes on the cable. This gun is like at least 50% larger than the gun on my Hobart Handler. Same for the cable. I am thinking I am going to want a smaller gun for running 0.023 and 0.030 wire.

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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    Machine looks like a winner from here. Were you looking for the 252 or did the deal pop up on Craigs? Can't tell from the photos, do the 252's come with a plug for a spool gun?
    Let me know if you see a deal like this again, unless you want another one .
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    Re: looking at a used Millermatic 252-questions

    I have a bad habit of trawling Craigslist for used welders. a few years back I picked up a pair of used syncrowaves for a grand total of $900, both worked so I let one go for $2K, and kept one. Since then I have been hooked. I was looking for an upgrade to my Hobart Handler since I wanted to play around with gas shielded flux core. I was kind of enamored with the ESAB Fabricator 252i, but folks here were pointing me to the Millermatic 252. I started looking at CL before Christmas...saw a couple of nice Lincoln Powermig 256s and a couple of MM 252s but they were all either beat to sh!t or nearly priced at full retail. This one came up late last week, and the guy was asking $1500, which was exactly what I thought was fair. Then with all the extras thrown in I really couldn't walk away from it.

    It does come with a plug for the spool gun or you can run a push pull gun with this unit. If I see one I will let you know. I am not sure I am going to buy another welder for a while...unless I see a screaming deal on a Dynasty. :-)

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