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    Which MIG gun?

    I am looking for a second gun to use on my MM 252. It is currently equipped with a Bernard 300 amp Q gun. I want to add a second gun for smaller work with 023 and 030 wire. I am currently looking at a Bernard Q 150 amp gun, a Bernard Q 200 amp gun, and the HTP gooseneck flexible gun. I like the idea of centerfire consumables on both guns, but I also like the idea of the flexneck. Of the two Bernard guns, is the 200 much bigger/bulkier than the 150? Open to all suggestions and opinions please. Thanks.

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    Re: Which MIG gun?

    Louie, I would load some .023 in your Q300 and never look back.

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    Re: Which MIG gun?

    I like having options.
    I really cannot stand the feel of my Bernard Q300 personally. It's a fine gun. It works wonderful. But at times its like a sledgehammer for trim carpentry IMO.
    I like the old school generic smaller Tweco style for it's flick-ability for the smaller stuff.
    And that is exactly why I ponied up for the mig max. So the 350P can be the Fire hose and the little machine can be the garden hose.
    You can't go wrong with options IMO.
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    Re: Which MIG gun?

    Louie, I would load some .023 in your Q300 and never look back.
    Maybe I could get used to it, but right now it just feels too huge for things like muffler/exhaust work, etc.
    I really cannot stand the feel of my Bernard Q300 personally. It's a fine gun. It works wonderful. But at times its like a sledgehammer for trim carpentry IMO.
    Yeah, sort of how I feel. I like the gun but not for small stuff.

    I am kind of leaning toward the 150 amp Q gun. Weldingsupply.com has both the 150 and the 200, for very affordable prices. I just don't really know which one will be better for me.
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    Re: Which MIG gun?

    I've held both the 150 and the 200 and there isn't that much difference. The 300 is massive in comparison. I was looking for a 200 (a good HD all round piece with great consumables, IMO "the sweet spot") for my MM211 a while back and they were hard to find without doing a special order. They are NOT cheap! The 150 is easier to find and a little more reasonable. The Centerfire consumables are pretty sweet.

    I was also considering the HTP flex gun. The price is much easier to handle and the consumables are cheap.

    I'd spring for the 200 if you can find it for less than $250 (with all of the options you want like length, neck, etc.) as it's much smaller than your 300 and may very well end up being your go-to for everything. Otherwise, I think the HTP is worth the gamble ---IMO
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    Re: Which MIG gun?

    You need a Trump hands sized gun...
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    Re: Which MIG gun?

    You need a Trump hands sized gun...
    Not sure about that. I have some pretty big mitts. I have trouble finding welding gloves that fit.

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