?? rebar to plate detail - help ??

[123weld]

Anyone know how to determine what size flare bevel weld this is supposed to be, and/or what the formula is for figuring it. It's a #7 rebar (.875 dia). to plate.
In the notes, it says, * = 0.40 "S" Reinforcing Bar Radius.

[123weld]

Having problems posting the pic of print/detail - give me some time, check back please. HAVING NO LUCK, I DID IT BEFORE, DOESNT SEEM TO WORK. when i hit upload file, it doesnt seem to work

[123weld]

[MinnesotaDave]

I read it as 0.40 times 1/2 the diameter (also called the radius).

[OPUS FERRO]

123weld

Having problems posting the pic of print/detail . . .

Kudos - 'for staying with it' - until a postable image . . .

I read it as 0.40 times 1/2 the diameter.

I agree - but . . .

On most key boards - Command + [key stroke] will magnify your screen.

A careful examination of the extension lines - reveals a discontinuity, 'of
where' - 0.40 times 1/2 the diameter- is placed.

In my observation - the specifications - and the shaded illustration of the
weld-bead [extension lines] - are not in agreement.

I'm going to sit on the side lines - until the Spec. Team clarifies . . .


Opus

[123weld]

Dave may very well be right. last time i did something for these guys, it was told to put a quarter inch weld on #7 rebar to plate, but i never saw the print/detail for it. And Daves theory comes out to just under that. As for lines, I think there just trying to make it clear to start and stop measuring throat b/t two shortest legs/points, as it must be measured diff than a fillet. I think I buy Dave answer. Kinda wonder what "S" means?

[Sandy]

Dave may very well be right. last time i did something for these guys, it was told to put a quarter inch weld on #7 rebar to plate, but i never saw the print/detail for it. And Daves theory comes out to just under that. As for lines, I think there just trying to make it clear to start and stop measuring throat b/t two shortest legs/points, as it must be measured diff than a fillet. I think I buy Dave answer. Kinda wonder what "S" means?

"S" = size in inches??

[OPUS FERRO]

123weld

This is not absolute - but the 'S' notation is legitimate . . .

http://www.therangerstation.com/Maga...ng_symbols.htm


Opus

[snoeproe]

There are 2 different S indications in the weld detail. The s on the left indicates the depth of the groove. The s on the right indicates the required depth of the weld.

[T man]

So, on a 1" diameter bar, the depth of the weld in the groove would be .20 of an inch.

1" x .50 = .50 "
.50" X .40 = .20"


Your #7 rebar being ,875 of an inch would be .175" depth into the groove

.875" X .5 = .4375"

.4375" X .40 = .175" or slightly smaller than. 3/16 " (.1875)

No?

[123weld]

sounds like everyone who answered this thread is right/helpful to me. yes, its actually smaller than 3/16, i didnt know, i was just roughing it in my head when i thought quarter. more likely inspector knew it, but was pushing me for the extra (just the way he's been). thank you everyone

[OPUS FERRO]

123weld

Much - has been made of the print/weld - cross-section/and where . . .

Advancing the conversation - what is the length of the splice-bars [weld length] ?

In response to T man math postulation . . .

So . . .
1" x .50 = .50 "
.50" X .40 = .20"
#7 rebar being - 875 of an inch would be .175" depth into -
.875" X .5 = .4375"
.4375" X .40 = .175" or slightly smaller than. 3/16 " (.1875)

Weld Joint design is simple - this math analysis is redundant, inapplicable, and
='s [AKA] crap welding understanding . . .

123weld

I have welded 100's of re-bar splices - and have overseered thousands more . . .
Weld reality - 'fill the pocket/to the top' - and your weld-inspector will be happy.


Opus






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[T man]

123weld

Much - has been made of the print/weld - cross-section/and where . . .



Advancing the conversation - what is the length of the splice-bars [weld length] ?

In response to T man math postulation . . .



Weld Joint design is simple - this math analysis is redundant, inapplicable, and
='s [AKA] crap welding understanding . . .

123weld

I have welded 100's of re-bar splices - and have overseered thousands more . . .
Weld reality - 'fill the pocket/to the top' - and your weld-inspector will be happy.


Opus






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Makes you feel more like a man to belittle others attempts at helping when asked? Regardless of "weld reality", he posed a question, and some people here actually helped him understand , without having to act like a condescending, pompous as$

[HT2-4956]

As an inspector...if I'd of seen a nice smooth fill up to the top of the rebar (or just a touch less in places) I'd have had no problem signing off on it as long as the weld was of the required length (per print).