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    Learning to weld.

    Saturday my 19-year old grandson ask me if I would teach him how to weld. This morning I started him out with some 6010 on the Everlast PowerArc 200ST. He was having trouble getting the rod to start. So, I switched him over to the Lincoln V350-Pro, with hot start. That really helped him with starting the rod. He played with some fillet welds in the flat position. Then I had him try some 1/8-inch 7018. The first picture is one of his first welds with 7018. 2 1/2-hours latter the second picture is what he did with 7018!
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    many inverters 6010 is harder to start if amps are not in a certain range for example
    normally
    1/8 6010 about 70-130 amps
    but with some inverters works better at
    70-100 amps as if more amps arc starts to sputter or be unstable
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    i have seen this on more than one inverter not sure why they do that

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Just being a hobby welder myself. The PowerArc 200ST runs 6010 every bit as nice as my Lincoln SA200 short hoods. Today was the first time my grandson touched a stinger.
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    Just being a hobby welder myself. The PowerArc 200ST runs 6010 every bit as nice as my Lincoln SA200 short hoods. Today was the first time my grandson touched a stinger.
    6011 more forgiving of lack of arc length stability control

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    oh jeez! there's only room for one hobby welder here cep
    iirc you mentioned once or twice that the grandson wasn't interested in getting his hands dirty so did that request take you by pleasant surprise?
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by docwelder View Post
    you mentioned once or twice that the grandson wasn't interested in getting his hands dirty so did that request take you by pleasant surprise?
    It floored me when he ask me to teach him how to weld. I wonder what he will do when he gets burned!
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Lasted longer than 1 I can think of who spent 20 minutes with the hot glue gun, dropped it on the floor and walked out declaring he knew how to weld good enough.

    Personally I think they should learn O/A first.

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    CEP .. 2nd weld is purty..purty!
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    After the first day of this, does he seem to want to come back for more? For just a hobbiest instructor teaching him, he looks like he is picking it up pretty good. No telling what he could do with a REAL weldor teaching him.

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Looks like its in the genes.

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    The last couple days, Iíve had the grandson working with 6010. Yesterday the light came on for him! This is what he did this morning! He is still having trouble starting the rod. Have the hot start set high to help him get the rod started.
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Give that kid a job
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    He told me all the years of playing video games, has help him with welding.
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Nice job, you must be a good teacher.
    I haven't stick welded since the early '70s
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Not bad teaching for a hobby welder... lol

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by FuelieNova View Post
    you must be a good teacher.
    Oh no, Iím a horrible teacher! Like woodworker nathan says. Iím just a hobby welder!
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    He told me all the years of playing video games, has help him with welding.
    I can believe it. Think eye hand coordination and it start's to make sense.

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by tackit View Post
    CEP Is that 5P+ he ran?
    Yes, it is 5/32Ē 5P+ 6010. Today I had him try some 5/32Ē ESAB 10P 6010, just to see how different brands weld.
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by tackit View Post
    Is apprenticeship talked about?
    I was telling him about some of the places Iíve welded. High in the air. His mother, my daughter told me this afternoon he is afraid of heights! She wants him to go to work in the local Navy shipyard. His dad is a rigging foreman at the local Trident Submarine base.
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Nice job!!! He is a natural!!!
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave View Post
    Give that kid a job
    +1
    thats just awesome !

    Quote Originally Posted by WNY_TomB View Post
    many inverters 6010 is harder to start if amps are not in a certain range for example
    normally
    1/8 6010 about 70-130 amps
    but with some inverters works better at
    70-100 amps as if more amps arc starts to sputter or be unstable
    .
    i have seen this on more than one inverter not sure why they do that
    probably low on run voltage. increasing the amps drops the voltage just a bit. just enough that if you long arc it a fraction it will cut out.

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Got the grandson to start on some vertical up hill with 7018 this morning.
    1/8-inch 7018, 118-amps, 0.0 on the arc force, +10 on the hot start.
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Kid is really starting to catch on to this vertical up hill welding with 7018!
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    Re: Learning to weld.

    He keeps coming back, that's a real good sign.

    You're making a good investment in his education. He's getting a better education than most of the so called Welding Schools offer.

    Switch him over to some O/A welding and see how he does.

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    Re: Learning to weld.

    Grandson is working with self shielded wire this week. This is .068Ē NR-212 vertical up hill. On 3/8-inch thick V-butt plate. Iím impressed!
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