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    The local farm store was also a grain elevator. They burned down in 1963, so the replacement had no wood. The 75 foot tall building is an acre or more, and was entirely welded with 1109 and an old AC welder. I was in my teens when I discovered it was 6011 upside down. I never saw 6010 until later. 6011 was considered AC or DC, 6010 was DC only. The one guy who welded most of the grain mill did OK with 6011 and AC. The farmers used what they could get. Everything they welded I ever saw looked like cancer anyway. I don't think I ever saw a farmer who owned a grinder. Generally they slobbered a lot of bird poop on top of a broken machine. If they felt they needed more strength, they covered the break with a piece of scrap metal, and buggered that on with more splattered weld. Cow manure would soon conceal the repair.
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    I still see that on older equipment when I get called out. Not as much as a few years ago, but still very well see it.
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    Re: E-6010 and 6011

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    The local farm store was also a grain elevator. They burned down in 1963, so the replacement had no wood. The 75 foot tall building is an acre or more, and was entirely welded with 1109 and an old AC welder. I was in my teens when I discovered it was 6011 upside down. I never saw 6010 until later. 6011 was considered AC or DC, 6010 was DC only. The one guy who welded most of the grain mill did OK with 6011 and AC. The farmers used what they could get. Everything they welded I ever saw looked like cancer anyway. I don't think I ever saw a farmer who owned a grinder. Generally they slobbered a lot of bird poop on top of a broken machine. If they felt they needed more strength, they covered the break with a piece of scrap metal, and buggered that on with more splattered weld. Cow manure would soon conceal the repair.
    Your far,ears must have been old duffers. Most of them I see today weld pretty darned well. Who knows , maybe itís the collective power of the internet so they do t have to take classes to figure things out. Thereís not much you canít learn off utube these days if your willing to take the time to look.


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    Farm welding in 2018 is a whole lot different from farm welding in 1958.
    It's not unusual to find 400 amp MIG machines on farms along with plasma cutters, especially on farms that build and repair their own equipment or repair $100,000 + machines.

    Unfortunately, the weld is still not in the machine,, it is still made or not made by the man behind the mask.
    Plenty of MIG wire gets piled on top of a lot of iron even today, and farmers find out looks welded ain't necessarily welded.

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    What the heck is "1109"?
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    Cellulosic, fast freeze,left handed
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpump5 View Post
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    Yah I hate that left handed rod too
    It's 6011 upside down

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    Re: E-6010 and 6011

    I usually just flip it over so the writing is on the bottom then it work great with my other left hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronsii View Post
    I usually just flip it over so the writing is on the bottom then it work great with my other left hand
    At the farm store, the owner bought maybe 5000 lb shipments at a time. He didn't know one welding rod from another, he bought what was cheap. Employees didn't likely see the container it came in. I wouldn't be surprised if the stuff I bought in 1973 was ten years old from a pile in the mill. It was 1109, and when I figured it out, I was considered a condescending little smart ***.
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    Re: E-6010 and 6011

    Yes/Inverters dont like 6010... my 2cents. They will run 6011 pretty good usually.

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    Re: E-6010 and 6011

    Quote Originally Posted by welder dog View Post
    Yes/Inverters dont like 6010... my 2cents. They will run 6011 pretty good usually.
    That's probably true for the cheap value built machines for home use in most cases, I've used maxstar and dynasty 200's that ran it fine and the xmt and lincoln that run them all day and don't break a sweat,

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    Re: E-6010 and 6011

    This is what my Everlast PowerArc 200 ST can do with 6010.
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