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    I was perusing a newly opened Tractor Supply near me today and notice they now have hermetically sealed 10 lb cans of 7018 H4R rods. The packaging looks almost identical to the Lincoln Excalibur H4R rods. Same white tin with the pull tab lid. Could be a fluke I guess, but I wonder if they are produced in the same plant as the Lincoln rods. They were cheap too...$36 for a 10 lb can. The web site has them for $46. I wonder if it was a grand opening sale or something specific to the store I was in? In any case if you need to pick up a can of sealed 7018 rods on a Sunday, TSC ought to be able to help you out now.

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    That's perfect, I wonder if my local L&M Fleet store will start carrying them too.
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    So they are a bit different than the Excalibur rods. The flux coating is noticeably thinner on the Hobart rods. They don't seem to need as much heat to run (they seem to run hot) as Excalibur and the flux is pretty standard Hobart flux. It is not going to peel off. But they weld nice. I like them.

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    I love Excalibur rods When I was welding cap pass on pipe guys used to come over and watch the flux peal off as I went up hill around the pipe ,but I used to put it in hot.

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    I noticed these the other day too, can't wait to give them a try once my short hood is up and running.

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    Iíll have to give those a try.
    I was disappointed to see that
    the 25 lb.boxes of 1/8 6011 and 6013
    at Tractor Supply have gone up
    to something like $58.
    At $50,they were the deal of the day.
    Iíve been using them for almost
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    Search the web for McKay 7018 XLM. Lots of good feedback on welding forums. A lot of folks do not like the Excaliburs.

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    Search the web for McKay 7018 XLM. Lots of good feedback on welding forums. A lot of folks do not like the Excaliburs.

    Other preferences include Murex MR and Hobart 418
    I'm one that's not a fan of excalibur's for pipe welding, they're fine for a weave cap on a vertical weld, but almost everyone wants stringers these days and excaliburs are to liquid for stringers I find.

    I much rather use lincoln conarc 49 C rods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    Search the web for McKay 7018 XLM. Lots of good feedback on welding forums. A lot of folks do not like the Excaliburs.

    Other preferences include Murex MR and Hobart 418
    Anyone familiar with the 25 lb. boxes of Hobart 7018 at Tractor Supply?
    Is it the same as the 418?
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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    I have bought and used the 25 lb box of 7018 at TSC as well. I don't know if they are the same as Hobart 418. The slag is pretty hard to get off of those weld beads if you don't run it exactly perfect. Very thick slag. are 418s the same?

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    I donít know that Iíve ever run 418. Some
    people seem to like it. Was wondering if
    the stuff in the 25# box was the same or
    similar. Iíve been using Excalibur for 7018.
    I donít use it often, but I like using it and it
    is pretty expensive at the lws.
    As a side note: the Lincoln 7018ac at
    Home Depot runs really well for me,
    (and is available on Sunday).


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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    I have never been a fan of 7018 AC rods. Personal preference I guess. The TSC 7018 rods in the carboard box are great for learning on, practice and noncritical applications. But I do like the way the new 7018 XLM rods run. Like them a bit more than the cardboard box 7018s

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    There seems to be a lot of variables when it
    comes to welding electrode preference:
    Machine type, operator experience,work
    type as well as just personal preference.



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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    I think 7018AC running AC is really only good for 1G, 1F maybe 2G.
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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    The past couple of years when Zoro has their end of year 25% off I stock up on Excalibur at slightly over $2/lb. and they are the best 7018 I've run. The guy that does my mechanical work has been a fan of Murex lately, I might try them.
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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    My local Tsc has been selling those for 2+ years. I tried them when I first saw them then and really like them. I usually buy excaliburs for structural work but these work just as good for me. I’ve run them off a ranger 305g, big 20, bobcat 225, and a trailblazer 302. They work well with all these machines. The slag also peels just like the excaliburs. I’ve never ran them on pipe.

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    i remember decades ago my old company used to buy Airco welding rod by the pallet maybe 2000 to 3000 lbs on a pallet.
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    once we got rod when you struck a arc the flux would fall off half the rod length. had dozens of welders using hundreds of lbs getting same problem. so they sent the unopened welding rod back and complained about it. obviously they had a manufacturing problem and were not doing 100% inspection.
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    just saying normally it was very very good welding rod. but that dont mean its always very good welding rod.
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    as for price its obviously cheaper by the pallet or ton. you can pay 30 to 100% more buying in small quantities.

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    Re: New rods at Tractor Supply

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    Search the web for McKay 7018 XLM. Lots of good feedback on welding forums. A lot of folks do not like the Excaliburs.

    Other preferences include Murex MR and Hobart 418

    I used to love McKay electrodes. I believe ITW bought them with Hobart and Miller.......anyway, they got rid of McKay and merged it with Hobart. McKay had 7018 that was called "7018XLM". This is why Hobart called it that. I have not used it since it's been taken over by Hobart, but it was my favorite rod.



    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    I have bought and used the 25 lb box of 7018 at TSC as well. I don't know if they are the same as Hobart 418. The slag is pretty hard to get off of those weld beads if you don't run it exactly perfect. Very thick slag. are 418s the same?

    I had some 418 in Plastic packs, and yes the slag was very thick and hard to remove. That aside, they ran nice. A guy that used to frequent this site always raved about the 418's. I don't know if they're different in the tin than cardboard or plastic.
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