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    Quote Originally Posted by precivilization View Post
    Does this wire comes in dual shield, too?


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    I didn't see any, but I see Blue Demon sells it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Demon-E7...s%2C180&sr=8-1

    I need to try that someday...... See what all the cool kids are raving about....
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    Anyone use this wire?

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    I didn't see any, but I see Blue Demon sells it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Demon-E7...s%2C180&sr=8-1

    I need to try that someday...... See what all the cool kids are raving about....
    I haven't seen any either, but it's available on their website.

    The blueDemon stuff seems to be well reviewed on Amazon, but mostly by weekend warriors and those who are seeking cost effective alternatives, which is not comforting. I think it's worth trying. Thanks John.


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    Re: Anyone use this wire?

    From what I've read, I think Lincoln is still pretty much the "gold standard" for E71T-1C/1M dual shield, but I've also seen videos of Eutectics DO266S and Select Arc running very well, as well.

    Kiswel also makes an economical dual shield wire that can be had at a very good price, about $55 for two 10# rolls of 035 on Ebay. A 33# roll of 045 is only $80 shipped, but it's CO2 only, not C25..




    Runs well, IMO as a weekend/garage warrior. Leaves black "specks" after slag removal. Kinda like some kind of residue on the top of the bead, but it seems to be just aesthetic in nature.






    In a bit I'm about to try out Böhler's E71T-1M dual shield. $75 for 33# at the LWS.




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    I haven't seen any either, but it's available on their website.

    The blueDemon stuff seems to be well reviewed on Amazon, but mostly by weekend warriors and those who are seeking cost effective alternatives, which is not comforting. I think it's worth trying. Thanks John.


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    It's funny how a lot of people gave that Blue Demon dual shield 1-star rating because they thought it was gasless flux core, and this one guy goes on a commenting-rampage and reply's to all the negative comments about how they don't know what they're doing for thinking it was gasless flux core and not knowing it was dual shield
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    Re: Anyone use this wire?

    Böhler dual shield runs great. 251ipm/24.5V, 100% CO2. 1" CTWD. ¼" MS.




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    Re: Anyone use this wire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Böhler dual shield runs great. 251ipm/24.5V, 100% CO2. 1" CTWD. ¼" MS.




    Trying out my new camera to get some cool arc shots like all the cool kids on YouTube

    Very nice arc shots, very clear, almost as good as welding tips and tricks arc shots .

    That CTWD looked much shorter than 1", it seemed like the nozzle was buried in the puddle. Maybe the camera angle.

    Why do you experiment with other brands of wire if you know that Lincoln's makes one of the best? A German brand without the benefit of being made in Germany .


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    Quote Originally Posted by precivilization View Post
    Very nice arc shots, very clear, almost as good as welding tips and tricks arc shots .

    That CTWD looked much shorter than 1", it seemed like the nozzle was buried in the puddle. Maybe the camera angle.

    Why do you experiment with other brands of wire if you know that Lincoln's makes one of the best? A German brand without the benefit of being made in Germany .


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    You're right about the nozzle being "buried" in the puddle. It is on purpose so I don't have to waste shielding gas. The CTWD is about 7/8"-1". I am using a custom-made nozzle that recesses the tip about 5/8" inside the nozzle. So by the time you add the ~3/8" from the nozzle to the workpiece, I end up right smack in the middle of the suggested range for 045 dual shield. Most literature suggests 3/4"-1". I experiment with other brands of wire for the sake of pure knowledge, and experience. Also so I can help others who might be looking for great deals on other brands of wire. I like to give more than I take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I like to give more than I take.




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    @Oscar.....

    Looks like your new camera is working well.....nice clear vid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    Thanks everyone.

    Seems to work pretty good.

    My girl likes it too.

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    I would be hesitant to have her as my girl. Not enough protection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I am using a custom-made nozzle that recesses the tip about 5/8" inside the nozzle.
    So what are the benefits of doing that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by precivilization View Post
    So what are the benefits of doing that?



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    I'm going "green" on welding shielding gas, lol.

    But seriously, it's kinda like using a gas-lens on a TIG torch. You can get by with using a little less argon flowrate for a given cup diameter and tungsten stick-out by using a gas lens, right? Well, there's nothing wrong with saving shielding gas with MIG-MAG either. I don't have to have 3/4"-1" of exposed dual shield wire and thus having to use a lot more argon flow (40-50CFH, as per Lincoln Literature).

    With the Super Nozzle, it's like short-circuit MIG where all I need is 3/8"-7/16" wire stick-out past the nozzle orifice while still retaining the recommended CTWD for 045 dual shield (3/4"-1"), and using a proportionately lower amount of shielding gas. For that nozzle in the video (which is a straight cylindrical nozzle), I only need ~28 CFH ± 5 CFH with the nozzle about 3/8" from the part (depending on joint geometry). With smaller 035 wire, I can use the standard conical nozzle that has a slightly smaller orifice and I can get away with 24 CFH ± 5 CFH, again depending on joint geometry. Here is my thread about my experiment: project: lowering flowrates for dual shield flux core

    I don't really get anything out of this mod, as shielding gas isn't too expensive, thankfully. But I've read in other parts of the world where welding shielding gas are prohibitively expensive for refills. So it was more of an challenge exercise for myself, while also trying to help others out that may not be in the same position as myself or someone else. Some people are paying upwards of $100USD for a refill/swap that others pay $30-$40 USD for the same amount of shielding gas. Can't change prices of vendors, but we can find work-arounds. Like I said, I like to give more than I take.
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