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    New 4x6 bandsaw

    I had to replace my bandsaw earlier this week, the bronze gear was worn out. I can't complain though, I bought the saw used about 40 years ago. It was an ENCO and did well. I bought a saw from HARBOR FREIGHT, checked it in the parking lot before I drove the 90 miles back home. I got it set up and got ready to "tune it up", surprisingly it cut within about 1/64th so I left it alone, checked the worm as has been suggested and it looked ok, so off to the races. I put a new bi-metal I-MACHINIST 10-/14 pitch blade on it and it cuts great.
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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    My HF saw has been good too. Still on the same blade after a lot of cuts. I'm running at 80sfm to keep things a bit cooler. It's like watching paint dry, but there's always other things to do while the saw is doing its thing.

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Only issue I had was the pulley cover vibrating, and making a ton of noise. Solved the issue with the farmers friend Wrapped a bungee cord around the thing, and presto...……..no more clattering.

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Replaced the motor on my HF 4x6 after 10 years or so. I bought a $20 Craftsmansm table saw for the motor.


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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Mine had the hinge pin hole drilled crooked so it wouldn't cut square along that axis. Not noticeable cutting flat stock but pretty bad for anything else. The hinge is part of the casting for the HF model. I took it back after screwing with it for several hours. Otherwise it was decent.

    Ended up with a used slightly larger Grizzly with hydraulic downfeed. It really comes in handy.

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Can ya'll post the model numbers of your saws?thanks

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    model no 37151

    1 hp

    serial 109030


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    made up some new jaws

    purchase march 1904


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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    Only issue I had was the pulley cover vibrating, and making a ton of noise. Solved the issue with the farmers friend Wrapped a bungee cord around the thing, and presto...……..no more clattering.
    My original blade took a crap while I was checking the saw for cutting straight, didn't surprise me too much. The bi-metal will do great unless I do something stupid like cutting something too thin or starting the cut with the blade on the stock. I run on middle setting and it cuts fast and the bi-metal blades last good.
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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    I have own 3 4x6 band saw, one from Gringer and one from post tool. The first two where mobile in the shop both I selling other tools and they what the saw too.
    The one have today is for my home use from Harbor freight.
    Great saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAVEMANN View Post
    I had to replace my bandsaw earlier this week, the bronze gear was worn out. I can't complain though, I bought the saw used about 40 years ago. It was an ENCO and did well. I bought a saw from HARBOR FREIGHT, checked it in the parking lot before I drove the 90 miles back home. I got it set up and got ready to "tune it up", surprisingly it cut within about 1/64th so I left it alone, checked the worm as has been suggested and it looked ok, so off to the races. I put a new bi-metal I-MACHINIST 10-/14 pitch blade on it and it cuts great.

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    I've had no problems with my harbor freight bandsaw and it also needed just a hair of adjustment from the factory. I've been really happy with it and recommend it to anyone that asks. Don't forget to use coupons when shopping there - ww.hfqpdb.com - their app is great too, you can scan items to search for coupons and load a "list" of coupons for checkout. They just scan the coupon from your phone.

    I use a layer of amazon purchased silicone "tape" wrap (the self bonding stretchy type) on the pulley covers as a gasket for a couple machines, though I've bungeed them before lol. I've seen some available in different colors now at home depot for a decent enough price, but I've never tried that brand.
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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw


    CAVEMANN



    Quote Originally Posted by CAVEMANN View Post
    I had to replace my bandsaw earlier this week,
    the bronze gear was worn out . . .
    The OEM fiber gears in my Heath Pantograph
    finally filleted.

    The motor house [Bodine] wanted 126.00$ ea.
    two required [Quarter Coin in size].

    I found the gear in brass/bronze at Berg for
    28.00$ ea.

    You maybe able to save your old saw . . .
    https://www.wmberg.com/


    Opus

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Quote Originally Posted by xmmancharl View Post
    model no 37151

    1 hp

    serial 109030


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    made up some new jaws

    purchase march 1904


    Charl
    Thanks much

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPUS FERRO View Post

    CAVEMANN





    The OEM fiber gears in my Heath Pantograph
    finally filleted.

    The motor house [Bodine] wanted 126.00$ ea.
    two required [Quarter Coin in size].

    I found the gear in brass/bronze at Berg for
    28.00$ ea.

    You maybe able to save your old saw . . .
    https://www.wmberg.com/


    Opus
    There is a gear available on Amazon for about 50 bucks, description says it fits most chinese , taiwanese saws, I didn't want to chance it cuz I was in the middle of doing my carport, so I bought the new one, I may order the gear and try it
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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Broke my first blade today on the little HF saw. Not too bad I guess. I think I bought it when I was trying to restore that old Clausing. That's a lotta cuts ago.

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    What brand was that blade farmersammm? What do you plan on replacing it with?

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    Let us if find a good blade that does not brake.
    I have never worn out blade they all broke

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAVEMANN View Post
    My original blade took a crap while I was checking the saw for cutting straight, didn't surprise me too much. The bi-metal will do great unless I do something stupid like cutting something too thin or starting the cut with the blade on the stock. I run on middle setting and it cuts fast and the bi-metal blades last good.
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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    [QUOTE=smithdoor;8731142]Let us if find a good blade that does not brake.
    I have never worn out blade they all broke

    Ellis has a how to break in a blade IF you aren't aware. My 4x6 saw blades I buy From Farm and Fleet. $10.00, just a basic metal cutting blade. I buy real blades for my Ellis 1600.

    http://www.ellissaw.com/bandsaw-blades/#brake-in-blade

    Here's my HF saw on stand, support stand, and old tub to catch filings.
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    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlues View Post
    What brand was that blade farmersammm? What do you plan on replacing it with?
    The one that broke was the original blade that came with the saw.

    I replaced it with this:

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    I have absolutely no idea if it's a good blade, or not. Picked it up from HF when I bought the saw. Hell...….I'm not even sure I adjusted it right when I put it on Just kept tightening it until it quit popping off the guide wheels (shrug), then eased it back a bit. Seems to run ok

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    why didnt you machine a new bronze gear?

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    CAVEMAN, I recommend checking the gear oil in your new saw. Whenever I checked mine, it looked liked used Diesel engine oil with a couple tablespoons full of casting sand mixed in. The sand alone will wear that bronze gear out.

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    That's the first thing I did because of a video about the worm being like a razor, the oil was full and clean. I put some Teflon greas in the box of my old saw many years ago and it was still there and flowing well with the oil mixed with it, it was slick 50 #2 grease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertm View Post
    why didnt you machine a new bronze gear?
    I don't have the equipment, or access to it any longer.
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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Apparently harbor freight now has a parts department, they have a list of things they carry parts for on the website with much more said to be coming. Might be an interesting source for hard to find parts for bandsaws, drill presses, etc.

    HF is gunning hard to be the new sears, we'll see.

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    Re: New 4x6 bandsaw

    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    The one that broke was the original blade that came with the saw.

    I replaced it with this:

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    I have absolutely no idea if it's a good blade, or not. Picked it up from HF when I bought the saw. Hell...….I'm not even sure I adjusted it right when I put it on Just kept tightening it until it quit popping off the guide wheels (shrug), then eased it back a bit. Seems to run ok
    Sammm, after years in a machine shop I very much prefer a bi-metal, variable pitch blade, We had a bandsaw in the shop that took a 2inch x28 foot blade, that saw would cut within ,008 on a 14 inch diameter. I looked at those blades , HF wanted 27 bucks for a 64 1/2 inch bi-metal 10-14 pitch, I think I'm paying about 16 on Amazon for a bi-metal 10/14 by I-Machinist.
    Last edited by CAVEMANN; 12-13-2019 at 08:17 PM.
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