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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    It does matter what advice you give Moto...

    He will walk in there and ignore everything.
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    This entire conversation has been done before. It's deja vu all over again.
    and that is the type of elitist crap I can't stand, so it comes easily to you, the bloke is asking questions to try and better himself even if he might not get it straight away, and going from the pics he posted he didn't do to bad for the first time running it, and he seems to have a pretty good attitude to not get his back up with A holes as well.

    to put it bluntly, If I were on the job with the two of you and Moto and the three of you needed help with something, Moto would have it without question even if it meant some work on my end to get him up to speed, the two of you would be told to go pound sand and figure it out for yourself.

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Quote Originally Posted by ttoks View Post
    and that is the type of elitist crap I can't stand.
    Just going by his past actions. simple as that.

    Ive told the kid many times he is a good welder.... But the fact is, he loves to argue. You may not see it in this particular thread..... But that has usually been the case.

    curse of the young, I reckon...
    The same for quitting your job before you have another one lined up..... Especially with 2 young children to support.

    But you and I are just keyboard warriors.

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Quote Originally Posted by ttoks View Post
    and that is the type of elitist crap I can't stand, so it comes easily to you, the bloke is asking questions to try and better himself even if he might not get it straight away, and going from the pics he posted he didn't do to bad for the first time running it, and he seems to have a pretty good attitude to not get his back up with A holes as well.

    to put it bluntly, If I were on the job with the two of you and Moto and the three of you needed help with something, Moto would have it without question even if it meant some work on my end to get him up to speed, the two of you would be told to go pound sand and figure it out for yourself.
    You don't get it. The dude comes on, asks for advice, then sets out to prove those who give him the advice wrong.

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    If you were testing for me and you didn't either look around and find some scrap on your own or ask me for something and you busted that's on you. My world is make or break weld test everywhere and I always find something to check my heat and rig. Btw dual shield is very forgiving. Here's a pic of my first 6g tig root/hot .045 dual shield out.

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    It sucks you didnít get the job. Kudos to you for trying.
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    Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    In hindsight thereís a ton of stuff I shoulda done or done different in my life. moto will nail it next time or the time after....
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Finally got a few pics uploaded. Dual shield is pretty forgiving as already mentioned. I always set my volts and adjust the wire accordingly. This was a tig root and hot pass dual shield from there.
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Couple pics of the tig root/hot pass.
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Going back today to test. Been running about 100í of dual shield lately a day and hope I can pass this test this time. Still havenít ran much uphill but thatís ok. Iíll probably just turn down the heat a touch on the uphill or just the wire. Havenít been taking pics lately because my phone is so full. My boss has complimented me a time or 2 over the last couple weeks which is a rare thing to do for him. Tested last week on 1/16 dual shield wire and like said in this thread by a member the wire was much slower. 180 I think. I was running 300 on .045 wire. I think there running 1/16 wire here also. Going to practice on some test pieces first. When running the welders at my last place I had to leave a week ago I ran the welders the same setting in all positions. We welded over head 76% of the time and I never adjusted the machine. learned to keep a tight arc doing overhead and once getting used to it, it was about the same as doing a flat welding in the 1f position. Only ran downhill tho and not up. Even if I ugly the uphill up a touch on the test Iím hoping they will work with me and train me, then I can pick it up fast if they do so. Waiting for a tig Aluminum welding place to call me back today also. Today Was the last day there taking interviews. This place doing the core wire is right on the river doing big jobs and is not production work. Welding 3/4Ē metal here on the test so any setting on 1/16 wire running uphill would be appreciated. Iíll start on there setting then try the 1/16 wire settings at a place I tested last week and passed. They were running 180 wire and 28 volts. Wire seemed low tho. If I remember right when I took this test a while ago they were running 256 wire and 25 volts maybe. Going in at 10 and going to have breakfast in my leather welding jacket. Thatís my new superstition since it got me the job last time

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Don't plan on lathe beveled pipe on a jobsite, I've only known 1 fitter that whined for machined bevels & I finally shut him down, he ALWAYS seemed to show up when all the lathes were tied up and expect us to tear down while on a job so we could bevel his freakin pipe. The last time he did I explained what a pain in the A$$ it was. EVRERY OTHER FITTER I'VE SEEN OR WORKED WITH USED HAND GROUND BEVELS, & I've done plenty of grinding bevels by hand when I was a fitter helper.
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    I used dual shield (E71T-1 w/CO2 0.52") wire for almost 30 years.
    It is great wire easy to use.
    It does need stick out from contact tip to work right (see chart below.. ).

    Wish the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by motolife313 View Post
    Never ran dual shield. It’s a uphill test and that’s about all I know. For a company welding bridges and I got a 9:00 am test tomorrow that I need to ace! Seen Jody on welding tips and tricks run 23 volts and 260 wire with .045 but will those settings be close for .052? He was welding 1/4 in the video. And kept the torch straight on at the metal. Not aimed up at all, is that normal? Or little aimed up ok? I never really ran uphill on mig so I’m little worried. Machine was always to hot to do so typically
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    I may have been running little too much wire for the uphill root. Did have a read out in ipm. It was a miller wire feeder with 0-750 read out. I think it was a touch over the 2 mark. I was running about 25-26 volts on 1/2” plate. Didn’t Pass the uphill again but the horizontal welds looked really good. I was pretty much using the same settings for uphill. The bead had to be small or it wanted to fall. Probably shoulda tried lowering the volts and wire more so I could dwell a little longer going uphill. Maybe he will call me lol

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

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    If this is the work you been doin lately I see no reason you wouldnt pass this test...maybe you are just a bundle of nerves needs to calm down. That work you doin here looks good

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    How did test come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motolife313 View Post
    Never ran dual shield. Itís a uphill test and thatís about all I know. For a company welding bridges and I got a 9:00 am test tomorrow that I need to ace! Seen Jody on welding tips and tricks run 23 volts and 260 wire with .045 but will those settings be close for .052? He was welding 1/4 in the video. And kept the torch straight on at the metal. Not aimed up at all, is that normal? Or little aimed up ok? I never really ran uphill on mig so Iím little worried. Machine was always to hot to do so typically
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    it was all good but the uphill part. I’ve only ran uphill like 3 times on mig. The first time trying to get this job about 6 months ago and at another weld test the other day practing, the test was 3g horizontal and I passed the test but hours didn’t work. And doing this test again today so not much mig uphill practice, I did some stick uphill and noticed the root pass was little tricky going uphill, got a stick welder at home I like to play with. So still looking. I do other side work for now and will start doing some metal art in the next couple days for fun and going to be out looking still

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Are you still working building dump boxes? That looks like a good job working with new material.

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Did you quit another job Moto?
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Iím not working there for now. I got too much going on right now. I think they will rehire me soon

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Quote Originally Posted by motolife313 View Post
    I’m not working there for now. I got too much going on right now.
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    I would look for next job.
    There is a shortage of good welders today .

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    Quote Originally Posted by motolife313 View Post
    Iím not working there for now. I got too much going on right now. I think they will rehire me soon

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    [QUOTE=smithdoor;8814459]I would look for next job.
    There is a shortage of good welders today

    there's a shortage of workers in all vocational jobs. Lil twirps are afraid of getting their wittle hands dirty.

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    bad gateway fix
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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Did you quit or get laid off? That looked like a darn good place to work and they were helping you out. Don't sacrifice a good job because you have other stuff going on. Nobody on here went right to the top and had the best jobs early in their careers. Some 1st year apprentices spend most of their time grinding. You had an actual welding job. Don't dismiss that. If you quit they might be worried you'd quit again and hire someone else. If you were disagreeing with them or figured you disserved a raise or something, GET OVER IT. You can burn decent flux-core but aren't in the same league as say Ttoks on here.

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    Re: Taking dual shield .052 uphill test tomorrow, looking for tips

    Just looking for up hill settings on here. Iíll keep practicing with stick

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