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    Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Hi everyone
    Looking for a cheap stick welder with ability to run 5/32" 7018 and 6010.
    I would like 220v on a 50 amp plug and breaker.
    225 amps would be nice.
    Thanks
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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Are you trying to avoid certain machines? Seems like the HF titanium 225 will do what.you are requesting at $290

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    For a new machine look at the Esab below. For used look for an Idealarc 250 AC/DC or Dialarc 250 AC/DC.

    https://store.cyberweld.com/esab-min...700500070.html

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    I'd look for an old Lincoln Idealarc AC/DC or Miller 330A/BP or something like that, but I have the room for such a beast. (I like old transformers.)

    Something like this:

    https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/...283130153.html

    Machines like this weld real nice and they will outlive your grandchildren.
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    For me I would go with a machine like the Esab Minarc just because it has adjustable hot start and arc force. I am not a great stick welder, and I would probably benefit from having adjustable arc force especially out of position with such a large rod.
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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    I have read some negative reviews on the Titanium, which makes me less likely to consider this machine.
    Thanks though for your info

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    I should have mentioned, my bad, that I already own a
    white faced Miller Dialarc 250 HF ac/dc.
    I love this welder.
    I just wanted a lightweight machine that only needs to do DC stick welding. Never gonna use tig. I love to stick weld with 5/32" electrodes.
    I usually set at 170-180 amps for 5/32" 7018.
    I want a machine that has more amps , like 225 and up.
    Thanks for your answer

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    I agree with you about older transformer machines.
    I love my Dialarc.
    Thanks

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Thanks
    I find 5/32" rods easier to run than the
    1/8" rods.
    I don't know if I would use those settings, but I am sure it depends on the machine.

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    well you are narrowing the field for sure. You sound like you want this https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-u...ncolnElectric)

    Or This https://store.cyberweld.com/miller-c...er-907810.html

    There are mail order/Chicom machines that stick weld up to 300 amps, but I can't recommend doing business with them.
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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    well you are narrowing the field for sure. You sound like you want this https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-u...ncolnElectric)

    Or This https://store.cyberweld.com/miller-c...er-907810.html
    I can sure vouch for the Lincoln Invertec products. I have the v250-s and it's a really great welder.

    The v250-s welders have been replaced with the v275-s machines. Sometimes they come up used for $800-$1000.

    When my v250 dies, I'll buy the v275 for sure.
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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    If you want to burn 5/32 ,I'd look for a used Miller CST 280 inverter. I doubt if you would ever hit duty cycle . Great for 6010 too.


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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin View Post
    I'd look for an old Lincoln Idealarc AC/DC or Miller 330A/BP or something like that, but I have the room for such a beast. (I like old transformers.)

    Something like this:

    https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/...283130153.html

    Machines like this weld real nice and they will outlive your grandchildren.
    Too much for the Idealarc and a 330A/BP is a 900lb. beast that draws a lot of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welder Dave View Post
    Too much for the Idealarc and a 330A/BP is a 900lb. beast that draws a lot of power.
    Your point...? Or are you just playing Schoolmarm again?

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin View Post
    Your point...? Or are you just playing Schoolmarm again?
    I think the point is the OP already has a dialarc, and is looking for a lunchbox sized welder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin View Post
    Your point...? Or are you just playing Schoolmarm again?
    My point is exactly what I posted. $700 is too much for an Idealarc when they can be found under $500. Are you the seller? You certainly don't need a 330A/BP to burn 5/32" 7018. The fact the OP has a Dialarc HF also rules these machines out. I'd give the same advice to anyone looking for a machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welder Dave View Post
    My point is exactly what I posted. $700 is too much for an Idealarc when they can be found under $500. Are you the seller? You certainly don't need a 330A/BP to burn 5/32" 7018. The fact the OP has a Dialarc HF also rules these machines out. I'd give the same advice to anyone looking for a machine.
    First of all, I wasn't saying to buy the welder I posted, I said "LIKE this." In other words, "here's what they look like." Second, he didn't post up that he already had a transformer until AFTER I posted my post (but before you posted yours). So your post wasn't adding anything to the conversation, Functionally, your post was about as useful to the conversation as interrupting a conversation about "What truck to buy" with the ground-shaking observation that "The F-150 is made by FORD." Uhhhhh, THANKS! You really must be an EXPERT!

    Yes, $700 is a bit high for an Idealarc. And yes, a 330ABP will eat a lot of power, but no more than any other transformer for a given size rod. But these things are all pretty much common knowledge, in the same way that "The F-150 is made by Ford!"

    Electric welders use electricity! Indeed, they do. Thanks!

    I'm not sure why you seem to post an answer to seemingly every post, when so many of those answers contribute nothing to the conversation. Many of them sound like hearsay repeated by rote. "A" for effort, I guess.
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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Then why did you post a craigslist ad for a $700 Idealarc? What an Idealarc 250 looks like is pretty common knowledge. Now you're back pedaling trying to justify your post. All I did was make a couple simple observations that oddly enough you're agreeing with. Not sure why you're getting so bent out of shape over it???

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    https://www.hobartwelders.com/equipm...te-210i-m30149

    This might be worth a look. Otherwise the foreign market has many options.

    https://www.everlastgenerators.com/p...powerarc-300st

    https://www.everlastgenerators.com/p...owerarc-210stl

    I have an everlast 161sth and I canít complain. And it will burn a 5/32 7018 just fine, but I donít burn more then one or two right in a row before I have to do clean up or grinding or repositioning of the work piece.


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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonath108 View Post
    Looking for a cheap stick welder with ability to run 5/32" 7018 and 6010.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonath108 View Post
    I should have mentioned, my bad, that I already own a
    white faced Miller Dialarc 250 HF ac/dc.
    I love this welder.
    I just wanted a lightweight machine that only needs to do DC stick welding. Never gonna use tig. I love to stick weld with 5/32" electrodes.
    I usually set at 170-180 amps for 5/32" 7018.
    I want a machine that has more amps , like 225 and up.
    Thanks for your answer
    The old transformer machines rock. I restored a 1966 Lincoln Round Top (Idealarc 250, AC/DC) last year (thread here in the Lincoln sub-forum). I can relate to wanting a smaller/lighter machine. Your limitation is going to be running 6010 rod. You can get welding current from small machines, but what is hard for them is to get the voltage up where a 6010 rod will run. That is why most (dare I say all) of the economical inverter welders can't run 6010, or can't run it very well at all. Higher end models will usually spec that they DO run 6010.

    I am still watching the market for a tig machine. However, I ended up with the Idealarc over an Everlast tig/stick machine at the time. I spent a fraction of the initial cost of the machine, but I spent a month restoring it. I would do it all over again though. The machine looks as good as it works. The best part, and what sold me on the old dinosaur, is now I have a machine that will always be there and always work. If I have another machine that goes down there will always be the idealarc there to stick something together. To the same point - that is what scares me about the inverter machines - especially the lesser expensive ones. If something goes with the fancy electronics and the machine goes down what do you do? What does the company do to support their product and get you back up and running? How long does that take? How much of a headache is it? I'll have to weigh the options and keep my ears tuned to what is out there on the market. Yeah, a small lunch box machine would be portable and nice to use but it might be advantageous to get an older machine that is easier to work on and less to go wrong. We'll see.

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    Re: Which dc stick welder under $800.00 ?

    Maybe you can find a used Miller CST280.
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