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    Looking for feedback, bench

    Hello all, building a bench. Mig, .030, Handler 190, 75/25. First project with gas. Anybody willing to provide feedback on my welds?
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    Re: Looking for feedback, bench

    Some fillers

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    Re: Looking for feedback, bench

    For a welding bench,, I think the welds are perfection!!

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    Looks nice you got it goin on there tiggen. Looks like some nice lookin mig weldin there.

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    Re: Looking for feedback, bench

    Heck of a lot nicer than my first mig welds! Looks great.
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    Re: Looking for feedback, bench

    Thanks, guys. Full disclosure, those were my best welds, not my average welds. Still having trouble with tie in on the four sides of the tube.

    These were made while pushing a looping movement I found that the a straight drag left a much taller weld bead no matter if I went normal speed or sped up. Even these seem to need a fair amount of grinding. I still wonder if I'm going to slow, but I am encouraged by your responses. We'll see if I got good penetration when I put the loaded tool box into the frame!

    Also, what is the brown stuff? It looks like a liquid right when I finish the weld, but then it solidifies quickly in the weld. Won't come off with the brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggen View Post
    Thanks, guys.
    Also, what is the brown stuff? It looks like a liquid right when I finish the weld, but then it solidifies quickly in the weld. Won't come off with the brush.
    That is silicon,, it is in the weld wire to make your weld better,,

    "Silicon (Si) – Silicon is the most commonly employed deoxidizing element in wires used for mig welding. Generally, wires contain 0.40% to 1.00% Si, depending on their intended use. In this percentage range, silicon exhibits very good deoxidizing ability."

    So,, it is kinda like melted beach sand,, a little tough to get off some times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggen View Post

    Also, what is the brown stuff? It looks like a liquid right when I finish the weld, but then it solidifies quickly in the weld. Won't come off with the brush.
    Hmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,, is this the excuse to buy the cabinet sand blaster that you always wanted??
    The sand blaster will remove the brown stuff,, RIGHT NOW!!

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    If you use 70S6 wire even with bright shiny material you’re likely going to get silica islands.

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    Got one cradle done.
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    There were some good welds and some bad welds on that one. Every new position brings lot of learning. One more cradle to go, and then I'll work on my carpentry skills for the top.

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    boy ??? are you welding on that purdy floor ??? nice shop

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    so that's what a clean shop floor is supposed to look like...
    The bench is coming along really nice, for a beginer welder your welds look good. The more you weld the better your welds improve.

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    Re: Looking for feedback, bench

    Time for an update. Got a HF Vulcan helmet and a 1.5 cheater lens, and all I can say is why did I take so long. It's like seeing things for the first time.

    Here's the bench in its current state.

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    I have tacked that piece of angle to tie the two cradles together as well as give a place to screw the top onto, but before I weld it, I would like to hear your thoughts on bolting instead of welding the top on. The cradles are for two HF 44" roller boxes, and the top is gonna be two sheets of 3/4 plywood and a 12 ga cap. It's just over 12' long and prolly gonna be in 600-800 lbs range (empty boxes) when done. Bolting would make it possible to disassemble if I ever needed o move it.

    So, bolt or weld? If bolt, 3/8" 16 grade 5 enough? Bigger, fine thread, grade 8? There would be eight, one per vertical leg, washer, lock washer, nut, and blue lock tite. The bench would be used for assembly, cleaning, cutting stock, maybe some medium duty pounding on a vise, maybe some vibration from a bench grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jniolon View Post
    boy ??? are you welding on that purdy floor ??? nice shop
    Lol, it does look good, but man is it a pain to sweep! And I can't see anything, like small screws or metal chips. I'm worried one of my girls is gonna walk in here barefoot and walk out with some nasty splinters.

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    I think I'd make the whole thing KD. You may want move it some day, or change the configuration as your needs change.

    It looks like it's going to be mostly the weight of the thing that holds it together. 1/4 coarse bolts would probably be ok. It cuts down the drilling effort too.

    Unless you intend to put side to side stress on the table top,, bolts should be fine. The bulk of the weight is held by the angle that will support the rollaway cabinets. Rollaways are fairly rigid, so I don't see them sucking the cradle down, and bowing the lower angle runners. The chest, itself, will transfer the weight to the corners. Remember, a rollaway is generally supported by casters...........so they're rigid over the width crosswise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    I think I'd make the whole thing KD.
    KD?

    Wish i'd listened to you on the 1/4" bolts. I thought the 3/8" heads and washers looked better size-wise, but man I paid for it in drilling time.

    Also, what about paint prep? I bought a bunch of these from Lehigh Valley - RD20NW-MED Are they the same as red Scotchbrite pads? And does all the mill scale need to come off before self-etching primer, or will a scuffed surface be enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggen View Post
    KD?

    Wish i'd listened to you on the 1/4" bolts. I thought the 3/8" heads and washers looked better size-wise, but man I paid for it in drilling time.

    Also, what about paint prep? I bought a bunch of these from Lehigh Valley - RD20NW-MED Are they the same as red Scotchbrite pads? And does all the mill scale need to come off before self-etching primer, or will a scuffed surface be enough?
    Sorry, that was sorta dumb.........................."KD" means knock down.......or capable of disassembly. My bad

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    Re: Looking for feedback, bench

    Paint prep on steel that new is strictly limited to cleaning the steel with mineral spirits to remove the grease/oil/dirt.

    Playtex rubber gloves, like you use to do dishes, and a cheap natural bristle chip brush to paint the thinner on the metal. Wipe off with paper towels, and let it air out. All of this is best done outside.

    If you have spatter on the steel, it generally comes off when using a cup brush on a grinder. I, personally, see no need for an abrasive disc. Leave the welds untouched..........no reason to grind them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggen View Post
    Lol, it does look good, but man is it a pain to sweep! And I can't see anything, like small screws or metal chips. I'm worried one of my girls is gonna walk in here barefoot and walk out with some nasty splinters.
    A buddy had his garage floor epoxy coated almost like yours, except when the worker wanted to know what color flakes to use, my friend told him NO flakes. He wanted to be able to find little things when he dropped them.

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    Top is made. Now just need to paint the frame, drop in the tool boxes, and reassemble. Will have a cap for the top bent out of 12ga.Name:  20210411_154320.jpg
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    test post

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    Tool cabinets fit! I know I shouldn't be this excited, but man this has been a long time coming. Basically just need to paint the frame and reassemble. Then waiting on 12 ga top. This is by far the biggest thing I've done to date. Been a great learning experience, esp finishing/paint as I see lots of mistakes, but still excited about seeing it come together. Might need to start thinking about next project.
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    top hasn't been on 15 minutes and crap is already accumulating on it !!

    j

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    Its called FAF
    First available flat surface
    And it will not matter if you have all the tool boxes in the world
    A good guess is better than a bad measurement

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    Quote Originally Posted by jniolon View Post
    top hasn't been on 15 minutes and crap is already accumulating on it !!

    j
    Yep. Like every horizontal surface in my garage, it's a sh!t magnet.

    Almost done. Just waiting on the metal cap for the top.
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