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    Hmmm.... so that's why Barrett Jackson does their auctions there....
    Exactly.
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    Re: Shootr's New Adventure - Totem Pole Build

    and a sad fact of life is that you have to harden it against porch pirates... if they will dig up and steal plants from one's front yard, (happened a couple of times to me) think of how tempting an art piece would be. Jim

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    And just like that, I will now be ignoring this thread.
    You're just mad because the spiders are eating your state bird.




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    that is an actual size photo of mosquitos in Louisiana, at least the babies...

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    Re: Shootr's New Adventure - Totem Pole Build

    Seriously I was thinking that was like a $20k sculpture, realistically. I don't think you should sell yourself short on this.
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    What is up with the killer hornets in Washington state?
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    The good and the not-so-good...

    Rained and stormed all night. Blew the tops over on the oleanders, they should straighten back up once the sun reappears.

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    The shop was unphased again, just some standing water from the original pad being out of level...
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    I'm sitting on the patio early in the morning, cigar and coffee in hand, enjoying the short-lived 70f temps. The kids have a family engagement this afternoon, so I'm trying to figure out their morning plans... I'm chomping at the bit to get in there and start stripping paint off the next tanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by davec View Post
    Seriously I was thinking that was like a $20k sculpture, realistically. I don't think you should sell yourself short on this.
    NOW I think you all are pulling my leg...
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    NOW I think you all are pulling my leg...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    NOW I think you all are pulling my leg...
    To me, there are two main reasons you may think that.
    Lack of confidence
    Track record

    Look online at Etsy, Custommade, Saatchi Art, then in person at your local galleries.

    You can argue all day long about technique, fit, finish, etc and your work. In the end, look at some of those pieces and compare yours.

    That is not to say you shouldn't strive to become a better welder or artist. If there are flaws, those can be part of your style or look.

    I have been in your shoes and resisted the urge to raise my prices. I am finally getting up there a bit. Not to the Kevin Caron level, but pretty respectable.

    I was on the phone last night with a previous repeat customer. He had bought an $18 piece out of a mass production art and home decoration store. He told me he could see the difference between that piece and mine. He felt that while he liked the cheap piece, it didn't fit next to some of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psacustomcreations View Post
    To me, there are two main reasons you may think that.
    Lack of confidence
    Track record



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    Guilty as charged. I cannot, nor would I, disagree with this.

    Probably the same as why I can't really believe I'm (technically) a senior citizen - I don't see, I don't feel it - just can't be.

    Maybe because it is so enjoyable to me? I've only ever made money by working traditionally - not by something I purely enjoy. I like my job, more so than most I've had, 100% commission (no salary to fall back on) and have always lived comfortably and supported the family well.

    Just a mental thing. I believe in myself and my capability to stick with it. The real goal I think I'm looking for is for someone, anyone, to want my creations. Like my current job, the sale, the closing the sale - that's my reward - the money is because I deserve it. Just have to translate that to this.

    I really wish we could all have a beverage together - I'll buy! Thanks guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    Guilty as charged. I cannot, nor would I, disagree with this.

    I really wish we could all have a beverage together - I'll buy! Thanks guys.
    Be careful what you wish for....
    I may be in Scottsdale in November for diver reunion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    I really wish we could all have a beverage together - I'll buy! Thanks guys.

    Another necessary reason to increase your pricing…


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    I really wish we could all have a beverage together - I'll buy! Thanks guys.
    Oh, there's cold beer? Tarantulas and rattlers aren't so much of a deterrent if there's cold beer on the line!

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    Got my fix in... cleaned up the bottles for the eagle. I feel so much better lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootr View Post
    NOW I think you all are pulling my leg...
    Not in the least. Based on the things I have seen over my many years looking at art pieces with my wife, I would say you should be be in 5 figures once finished for sure. But don't show her the pictures or she might try to buy it!
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    Shootr, It might just be me but I think the piece as currently built with the 3 creatures looks really good and balanced. You could keep going taller and taller but might want to consider stopping now and maybe making a companion piece of similar height. The current size might fit well in more locations an average person (with lots of bucks) might have a need for art, but when you start getting real tall you may well need to find a real specialty buyer.
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    I agree with Jrporter. Right now they look all in proportion and have great lines. Continuing above this height, with those tanks shown changes the perspective drastically.
    I would definitely stop where it is now. If you want to continue, I would consider the same tank width as what's there.
    Right now that height would probably fit in most inside spaces. Extending higher may limit it to outside display only.
    Again, it depends on the buyer.
    What's the height now ??


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    It's almost 6ft tall now, the eagle will make it about 8ft overall.

    The tapering at the top will work - the bottom bottle is the eagle body, and will have 48" - 60"-ish wingspan. The top one is the head, with a large menacing beak. The wings will more than balance out any perceived abnormality of a tapering stack.

    Also, I have to stay faithful to the pole.

    Bottom: The boatman offers a canoe for the tribe to fish. The fisherman reaps a bountiful catch of salmon. The bear and eagle are provided offerings of the salmon - to maintain a balance in the Karma of the tribes' environment.

    That's also why I am not including the original one - with a cigar. After I finished the bear, there was just no way I could desecrate the spirit and heritage of totem poles. At least not intentionally.

    I appreciate your thoughts and ideas. This is such a labor of love that I will take a break when it's finished to make some smaller, more polished items for Christmas gifts and to just relax.

    Seems to take me a while to recharge and get motivated to jump into a multi-month piece. Now if this sells for 5 figures, I imagine that motivation will come a damn sight quicker!!!
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    " Stay faithful to the pole. "
    That's what I keep telling her !


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    Shootr, something else to consider. My son and I were admiring your work and he mentioned that your potential market might be constrained to private buyers unless you happen to have some native american blood in you. Up here in Washington they recently removed a totem pole that had stood for about 100 years because it was carved by a bunch of non-natives. I don't want to get into cancel culture or any of that stuff that will get a thread shut down - just wanted to mention that you aren't likely to get a buyer with the intent of public display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrporter View Post
    Shootr, something else to consider. My son and I were admiring your work and he mentioned that your potential market might be constrained to private buyers unless you happen to have some native american blood in you. Up here in Washington they recently removed a totem pole that had stood for about 100 years because it was carved by a bunch of non-natives. I don't want to get into cancel culture or any of that stuff that will get a thread shut down - just wanted to mention that you aren't likely to get a buyer with the intent of public display.
    Same situation here in BC.

    This is why I earlier suggested overseas markets. Germany in particular.


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    Yeah, and you can call the artist "Arrow shootr"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrporter View Post
    Yeah, and you can call the artist "Arrow shootr"
    Ahh, maybe " Straight Arrow Shootr" ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    " Stay faithful to the pole. "
    That's what I keep telling her !


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