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    "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    For the past 6 or 7 years I've had a Miller Digital Performance welding helmet that has served me well. I went through a year of welding school with it, and have burned a couple of tons of rods at home with it. It's my default go-to helmet. The other day I was reading a little label stuck on the inside of it with a bunch of the usual warnings and legal copy. Then I noticed a line, "do not use this helmet for welding in the overhead position," or something similar. Why on earth does it say that??? I have done a little overhead welding - not much - and never had a problem.
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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    Most helmets don’t offer enough coverage over the top and around the sides of your head. That’s why the fibre metal pipeline helmets are still used
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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    Sounds like more CYA!!
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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    I have had BBs melt through my classic miller helmet. Some black epoxy and it was back in business. As thin as they are i could certainly see more issues with higher amperage and heavier spatter.

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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    When welding overhead, slag will melt the lens cover, and penetrate to the AD cartridge......ruining either the cartridge film, or the little solar panel. I've burned the gaskets on the cover plate on my Jackson True Sight when welding overhead. The older Homer Hoods were better designed for overhead.

    Oh yeah...........I have some "dead spots" on an older Jackson cartridge where the slag melted the lens cover, and ruined a spot on the cartridge. Had to replace the cartridge because it let light in at those points. That gets real expensive.
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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    Just about evry weldin hood Ive seen has that warning, probably just to prevent getting sued over a burn

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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    Quote Originally Posted by farmshop View Post
    Most helmets don’t offer enough coverage over the top and around the sides of your head. That’s why the fibre metal pipeline helmets are still used
    I love those since they're so light and my neck is destroyed. I trim them using an broken portaband blade to mark the cuts for maximum chin tuck then glue a back flap cut from an old Tillman TIG glove to it using 3M 5200 marine adhesive sealant (glorious stuff and available in small tubes).

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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    I'd guess it's more so the AD lens doesn't get damaged and Miller won't give warranty. Burns are part of welding unfortunately.

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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    Hey, I'm going out on a limb here...................................

    The average AD hood is made for those who really don't do a lot of overhead welding. I'm serious.

    They[re wonderful for most stuff, but they're not made for serious overhead welding...........where slag falls down in your face. The old Homer hoods were made for this, and should actually be used for this kinda welding.

    The AD hood falls on its face when it comes to actual real world welding. I guess I had to say it. I can tell you from experience. They don't measure up to all conditions.

    Overhead is a weird thing. I'ts a commitment thing. You strike the arc, and take what it gives you. Leathers, buttoned up at the collar, etc.......... You just take it. You're gonna get burned............you just know it, and you accept it.

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    Re: "Do not use for overhead welding..."

    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    Hey, I'm going out on a limb here...................................

    The average AD hood is made for those who really don't do a lot of overhead welding. I'm serious.

    They[re wonderful for most stuff, but they're not made for serious overhead welding...........where slag falls down in your face. The old Homer hoods were made for this, and should actually be used for this kinda welding.

    The AD hood falls on its face when it comes to actual real world welding. I guess I had to say it. I can tell you from experience. They don't measure up to all conditions.

    Overhead is a weird thing. I'ts a commitment thing. You strike the arc, and take what it gives you. Leathers, buttoned up at the collar, etc.......... You just take it. You're gonna get burned............you just know it, and you accept it.
    Yup...you wanna be a real world welder and do it all you got to take the not so nice stuff that goes with it, like my son in law would say to the boys in wrestlin practice....Suck it up Buttercup.

    Those new weld hoods are great for productiion work, but yeah they dont hold up for heavy duty stuff for very long, get an old school Fibremetal or Jackson hood for the heavy work, and I doubt that you will ever find a weld hood that is recommended for overhead welding.


    Get an education real fast in overhead work in this busness use of these in overhead work

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    I know it aint for welding but its one of the things I gotta do on occasion
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