I am a 50 year United Association member-Detroit Plumbers #98. I weld. I attended Hobart 1982 and worked as a welder across the country welding pipe. I have a son and a son-in-law welder I helped train. I work for Chrysler now as a pipefitter/plumber. I joined after finding this site on Rig welders forum. I hope the pipe liners are soon back to work. Motown