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    Disgusting factory welds

    After selling the tapered bucket for my skid loader a year ago, I decided to build another one. I ordered the attachment plate again as I can't build one for $139. The last 2 I've bought were very well made. The welds were perfect and the strap across the top was welded all the way. I couldn't find the company I used before so went with another one. The top strap has 5 little, narrow welds across it. The sides of the strap and the ends of the plates have welds that look like a kid welded them. I mean they are absolutely horrible. I will have to grind them all out and reweld them, they are so bad.

    There were 3 rods taped inside the top strap, I don't know why. They are labeled J422. I have no idea what they are.
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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    It looks like slag & weld metal are just about evenly splt
    I don't know if it beeds to be fully welded, but it definitely needs better welds than what I see. The J422 is available on AMAZON and is classified as being for carbon & stainless.
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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Must be a weld-it-yourself kit. Should have come with a free grinding wheel. I saw a listing somewhere that said "J422 - 6013 bridge building electrode" , it does have that first weld with 6013 , slag underneath , hard to remove look to it. Just surprised it wasn't a cold solid wire mig weld, which most cheaper import implements seem to have. With the cost of steel now , its still a good deal. Don't forget to post some pic's of your repair, Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    There is a reason it you can't build it for $139. I'd redo all the welds.

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Tianjin Golden Bridge welding electrodes:
    http://power-weld.com/product/golden-bridge-j422/

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    GOLDEN BRIDGE J422 Name:  logo-golden-bridge-w180.jpg
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    WH · J422 GB/T 5117 E4303
    AWS A5.1 E6013
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    Description: WH·J422 is a kind of carbon steel electrode with lime-titania type coating. AC/DC. All- position welding. It has excellent welding performance, excellent mechanical properties, stable arc,
    fewer spatters, good slag detachability, easy reignition and beautiful appearance of weld. The ripples can
    be wide, narrow, thin and thick. Welding is easy and efficient.

    Application: Used for welding key low-carbon steel structures and low-alloy structures with low
    strength, such as Q235, 09MnV, 09Mn2, etc.


    Chinese House brand made by Malaysian company ?

    So, did you try welding with that "J422" electrode ?
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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    There were 3 rods taped inside the top strap, I don't know why. They are labeled J422. I have no idea what they are.
    This detail intrigues me. It's as if they're saying, "Well, we threw up our hands and gave up. We couldn't weld this thing worth a dam, but maybe you'll have better luck!"

    "Golden Bridge" ... is that what you stand under if you want a "Golden Shower"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin View Post
    This detail intrigues me. It's as if they're saying, "Well, we threw up our hands and gave up. We couldn't weld this thing worth a dam, but maybe you'll have better luck!
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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    I thought maybe the correct number of rods is taped to each project so the weldors don't waste rods. I guess this weldor had extras and I can believe it.

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Not all Chinese welding is bad, I recall seeing a documentary about the last of Chinese steam locomotive building in the 1990's (really), It showed some really good looking weld construction work. Of course this was not export work.

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    China is capable of very high quality welding but total crap seems acceptable too. Just depends on the standards for the specific product or manufacturer. Something to think about with a $139 adaptor plate.

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Looks like some of the stuff sold by Titan.

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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I ordered the attachment plate again as I can't build one for $139.
    Clearly they can't build one (properly) for $139 either.

    That's crazy cheap... over here, that price would barely cover the materials.
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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    Geez....I'd have to re-weld all that too. What a terrible job.

    I just ordered a 1/2" quick attach because it was cheaper than buying the steel.
    https://www.palletforks.com/skid-steers/

    But those big companies buy a train-car load of steel at a time - probably super cheap at that volume...

    A trailer parts dealer told me that's how they buy their trailer axles and various items.
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    Re: Disgusting factory welds

    I recently bought a SSQA plate off of ebay too. I saw the ones that came with 3 welding rods (I also went WTF?) but they mentioned it was so you could weld whatever your thingy was onto the plate. Silly. I got a one from a different vendor and it is very well put together. I guess I am glad I got this one, but no way to know before it shows up... I also have no doubt it came from China by the container load. This was mine
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/194033655088

    I bought one several years back from ebay too (no idea from who) and that one was good too. The UPS/Fedex guys must hate me
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    Quote Originally Posted by davec View Post
    I bought one several years back from ebay too (no idea from who) and that one was good too. The UPS/Fedex guys must hate me
    The ones at my last shop always groaned when they opened the back - the young ones thought it was funny - old guys not so much
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    No egg rolls only cheeseburger!
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